Hi

I proposed creating PRs about that but my understanding was to list the
dependencies for discussion or cleanup.

It works for me not to publish the distribution/artifact for
kafka-connect-runtime and open-api for 1.11.0.
The LICENSE/NOTICE should be ok (without changing the deps set).

I suggest a clear dependencies review post 1.11.0 (on main).

Regards
JB

On Wed, May 6, 2026 at 7:19 PM Kevin Liu <[email protected]> wrote:

> +1 to unblocking 1.11 and 1.10.2 releases. The proposal here seems to be
> to exclude both kafka-connect-runtime and open-api (iceberg-rest-fixture
> docker) from the release. Is the idea to then do a follow up patch release
> to fix forward?
>
> I want these PRs up to fix the LICENSE for all cloud bundles + spark and
> flink. These PRs should unblock the release.
> - AWS https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/16196
> - Azure https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/16181
> - GCP https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/16182
> - Spark https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/16215
> - Flink https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/16216
>
>
> I also started looking at the open-api issue (
> https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/16214). I would love to get it
> fixed before the release, but it's not a blocker.
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin Liu
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 1, 2026 at 11:35 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Fokko,
>>
>> I agree. I think we should look at the Gradle configuration. Currently,
>> the test-fixtures artifact is being published to Maven without a classifier
>> as a "pure" jar (loosing test-fixtures classifier), even though it is not
>> supposed to be published at all.
>>
>> I flagged this in the release thread, and I believe we should update the
>> Gradle behavior to ensure this artifact is not published.
>>
>> Regards,
>> JB
>>
>> On Fri, May 1, 2026 at 11:08 AM Fokko Driesprong <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Ryan for addressing this.
>>>
>>> I agree that we shouldn't release the the Open-API jar, in line with the
>>> publication section on the release doc:
>>> http://apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#publication. The Open-API
>>> jar build a docker image, which is ment for development purposes only. For
>>> example, when working on server side planning in the reference Java
>>> implementation, we can test against this in PyIceberg/Iceberg-Rust/etc
>>> after the nightly build is published. But I think we should not publish the
>>> jar itself (at this point at least).
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Fokko
>>>
>>> On 2026/05/01 08:20:27 Péter Váry wrote:
>>> > +1
>>> >
>>> > John Zhuge <[email protected]> ezt írta (időpont: 2026. máj. 1., P,
>>> 4:34):
>>> >
>>> > > +1 (non-binding)
>>> > >
>>> > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 7:08 PM roryqi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> +1, agree!
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Steve <[email protected]> 于2026年5月1日周五 07:02写道:
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > +1 , agree to unblock the 1.11 and 1.12 releases first and
>>> revisit.
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Thanks,
>>> > >> > Steve
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 12:45 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
>>> [email protected]>
>>> > >> wrote:
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > Hi Ryan,
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > I agree with this approach. It is perfectly aligned with the
>>> points I
>>> > >> mentioned a while ago.
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > Regards,
>>> > >> > > JB
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 7:49 PM Ryan Blue <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >> > >>
>>> > >> > >> Hi everyone,
>>> > >> > >>
>>> > >> > >> I have a quick update on LICENSE issues that are currently
>>> blocking
>>> > >> 1.11 and 1.10.2. Also, sorry if you got this twice, but it looks
>>> like it
>>> > >> didn't go through the first time.
>>> > >> > >>
>>> > >> > >> TL;DR: I think we should:
>>> > >> > >>
>>> > >> > >> Hold off on adding Kafka Connect to the release process
>>> > >> > >> Remove the iceberg-open-api-test-fixtures-runtime Jar from
>>> releases
>>> > >> > >>
>>> > >> > >> The background is that over the last few weeks, we found two
>>> fairly
>>> > >> large leaks that added transitive dependencies into Iceberg runtime
>>> Jars
>>> > >> (fixed by #15655 and #15858). As a result, Russell added a new way
>>> to track
>>> > >> and validate the dependencies included in our published artifacts.
>>> To make
>>> > >> sure the new checks are correct, I’ve been going through to
>>> validate the
>>> > >> LICENSE/NOTICE files against the dependency list. Unfortunately,
>>> there are
>>> > >> more problems.
>>> > >> > >>
>>> > >> > >> The first problem is with our Kafka Connect distribution.
>>> There are
>>> > >> two zip distributions, a Hive and a non-Hive version. Robin has been
>>> > >> working on getting these published as part of our release process in
>>> > >> #15212. The non-Hive distribution is very large and has some
>>> dependencies
>>> > >> that may not need to be there, like Apache Commons Jars that aren’t
>>> used in
>>> > >> Iceberg (and would be provided by KC if needed?). #16147 is a draft
>>> with
>>> > >> some of the non-Hive changes. The Hive distribution has about 100
>>> more Jars
>>> > >> than non-Hive, and includes many dependencies that are almost
>>> certainly
>>> > >> unnecessary, like 3 hadoop-mapreduce-* Jars. My recommendation is
>>> to hold
>>> > >> off on making Kafka Connect part of releases until the license
>>> issues are
>>> > >> solved.
>>> > >> > >>
>>> > >> > >> Another issue is the open-api module. We added this to the Java
>>> > >> build to verify the REST catalog spec, but then added tests and
>>> fixtures
>>> > >> for validating REST implementations. #11279 added a runtime Jar for
>>> to run
>>> > >> a test service, but most PMC members I’ve talked to about it didn’t
>>> know
>>> > >> that we have been publishing it — and have been since 1.7. This
>>> runtime Jar
>>> > >> indiscriminately bundles far more libraries than it needs, like the
>>> cloud
>>> > >> provider libs, Hadoop common, JUnit, Jetty, and others. The Jar is
>>> 200+ MB.
>>> > >> My recommendation is to remove this Jar from publication to unblock
>>> > >> releases.
>>> > >> > >>
>>> > >> > >> As a general rule, when we are considering adding a new runtime
>>> > >> distribution to the project, we need to check that it is something
>>> we need
>>> > >> to do (vs an easy alternative), and if it is, then minimize the
>>> > >> dependencies included to only those required to run it. Once that’s
>>> done,
>>> > >> we need to document the dependencies in LICENSE and NOTICE and, as
>>> of
>>> > >> #15855, ensure that the bundled dependencies are tracked in a
>>> > >> runtime-deps.txt file.
>>> > >> > >>
>>> > >> > >> I think the priority right now is to unblock the 1.11 and
>>> 1.10.2
>>> > >> releases. We can do that by not releasing these artifacts. After
>>> that, I
>>> > >> think we need to verify for all of these that they are needed, have
>>> minimal
>>> > >> included dependencies, and then document those dependencies. For
>>> example,
>>> > >> do we need a Kafka Connect Hive distribution or is the REST catalog
>>> version
>>> > >> enough? Does everyone agree that this is the right path forward?
>>> > >> > >>
>>> > >> > >> Thanks,
>>> > >> > >>
>>> > >> > >> Ryan
>>> > >>
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > --
>>> > > John Zhuge
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>

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