+1 on Sergey's idea too.

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Nikita Ivanov


On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrak...@apache.org>
wrote:

> I think I like Sergey's idea. Any way to make it backward compatible?
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Sergi Vladykin <sergi.vlady...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > In my view we should not pollute sync APIs with all async methods,
> > definitely we have to separate them
> > for better UX.
> >
> > Currently on Java we have IgniteAsyncSupport with method withAsync()
> which
> > returns the same sync API
> > but that API works in broken manner. Instead it should look like the
> > following IMO
> >
> > interface AsyncSupport<X> {
> >     X async();
> > }
> >
> > Where X will be an interface with respective async API.  For example for
> > IngneCache we will have AsyncCache
> > with all the respective async variants of all methods. Like this
> >
> > interface IgniteCache<K,V> extends AsyncSupport<AsyncCache<K,V>> {
> >     V get(K key);
> > }
> >
> >
> > interface AsyncCache<K,V> {
> >     IgniteFuture<V> get(K key);
> > }
> >
> > From implementation standpoint both interfaces can be implemented by the
> > same class but for user API
> > they will be conveniently separated. Implementation of every sync method
> is
> > trivial if we have
> > async counterpart: just call get() on received future.
> >
> > From documentation point of view we just have to write on each method
> that
> > it is a async variant of some
> > method on main API like following:
> >
> >    /**
> >      * Asynchronous variant of method {@link IgniteCache#get(Object)}.
> >      */
> >
> > This way we will not need to maintain the same docs for all sync and
> async
> > methods.
> >
> > Sorry, I'm not an expert in .Net but I believe this approach will fit
> .Net
> > as well, so it can be consistent across platforms.
> >
> > Sergi
> >
> >
> >
> > 2015-10-12 19:10 GMT+03:00 Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrak...@apache.org>:
> >
> > > Do I understand correctly that you are suggesting adding "Async(..)"
> > > counterparts for all the synchronous methods?
> > >
> > > Are there any objections about this? If we do it in .NET, then we might
> > as
> > > well do it in Java, because in my view the same reasoning can be made
> for
> > > Java. This will cause significant proliferation of Async methods. For
> > > example just on IgniteCache API, we will have to add about 40 Async()
> > > methods.
> > >
> > > D.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 3:45 AM, Vladimir Ozerov <voze...@gridgain.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > No. "await" is actually return from the method immediately. Let me
> show
> > > it
> > > > again:
> > > >
> > > > async Task<int> GetAndMultiply() {
> > > >     Task<int> res =  cache.GetAsync(1);
> > > >
> > > >     await res;
> > > >
> > > >     return res.Result * res.Result;
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > maps to the following pseudo-code in Java:
> > > >
> > > > Future<Integer> getAndMultiply() {
> > > >     Future<Integer> res =  cache.getAsync(1);
> > > >
> > > >     return res.chain((f) => {
> > > >         return f.get() * f.get();
> > > >     });
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Yakov Zhdanov <yzhda...@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Is current thread blocked until "await" instruction is completed in
> > > > > parallel thread?
> > > > >
> > > > > --Yakov
> > > > >
> > > > > 2015-10-12 10:41 GMT+03:00 Vladimir Ozerov <voze...@gridgain.com>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Example with Get() operation:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > async Task<int> GetAndMultiply() {
> > > > > >     // This line is executed in current thread.
> > > > > >     Task<int> res = cache.GetAsync(1);
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     await res;
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     // This code is executed in another thread when res is ready.
> > > > > >     int mul = res.Result * res.Result;
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     return mul;
> > > > > > }
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Dmitriy Setrakyan <
> > > > > dsetrak...@apache.org
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 3:42 AM, Vladimir Ozerov <
> > > > voze...@gridgain.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Guys, let's try keeping this topic focused on .Net please,
> > > because
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > product is not released yet and we can create any API we
> like.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Dima, answering your question about async/await - this is
> > > actually
> > > > > > native
> > > > > > > > continuation support in .Net. Consider the following .Net
> > method:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > async void PutAndPrint() {
> > > > > > > >     await cache.PutAsync(1, 1);
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     Console.WriteLine("Put value to cache.");
> > > > > > > > }
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And what if the method putAsync would return a value. How would
> > > this
> > > > > code
> > > > > > > change?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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