I am ok with the suggestion. Val, can you please file a ticket (or I guess
we already should have one) and put your suggestion to it.

--Yakov

2015-12-14 11:47 GMT+03:00 Valentin Kulichenko <
valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com>:

> Denis,
>
> Yes, this can be a workaround, but at the same time  it makes things even
> more confusing :) This means that client node behavior depends on
> some property on discovery SPI, while this property should influence only
> internals of discovery protocol.
>
> I think the client should always work in the same way: start without
> blocking and then throw disconnect exception if there are no
> servers. Currently this behavior depends on presence of server nodes,
> forceServerMode flag and probably smth else, which makes it unpredictable.
>
> -Val
>
> On Monday, December 14, 2015, Denis Magda <dma...@gridgain.com> wrote:
>
> > Guys,
> >
> > There is already a configuration property that lets to complete client's
> > launching procedure even if there is no any server node in a cluster -
> > TcpDiscoverySpi.setForceServerMode.
> > The only side effect of this property is that a client node will become a
> > part of the ring.
> >
> > Is this property applicable or you want to support something different?
> >
> > --
> > Denis
> >
> > On 12/12/2015 6:13 AM, Valentin Kulichenko wrote:
> >
> >> Dmitry,
> >>
> >> How do you think, should we just change the behavior or make it
> >> configurable?
> >>
> >> -Val
> >>
> >> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan <
> dsetrak...@apache.org
> >> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> I agree that we have a consistency issue here. I am OK with the change.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Valentin Kulichenko <
> >>> valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Folks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Currently there are two different ways how a client node behaves in
> case
> >>>> there are no server nodes:
> >>>>
> >>>>     1. If it's trying to start, it will wait and block the thread that
> >>>>     called Ignition.start().
> >>>>     2. If server nodes left when it was already running, it will throw
> >>>>     disconnect exception on any API call.
> >>>>
> >>>> It seems confusing to me (and not only to me, as far as I can see from
> >>>>
> >>> the
> >>>
> >>>> users' feedback). First of all, it's just inconsistent and requires
> >>>> different processing for these different cases. Second of all, p.1 is
> >>>>
> >>> often
> >>>
> >>>> treated as a hang, but not as correct behavior. And it's getting worse
> >>>>
> >>> when
> >>>
> >>>> the node is started as a part of web application, because it blocks
> the
> >>>> application startup process.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think we should start a client node (or at least have a configurable
> >>>> option) even if there are no servers yet. Until the first server
> joins,
> >>>>
> >>> it
> >>>
> >>>> will just throw disconnect exceptions.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thoughts?
> >>>>
> >>>> -Val
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >
>

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