If the RendezvousAffinity with enabled useBalancer is not much worse than FairAffinity, I see no reason to keep the latter.
Sergi 2017-04-10 13:00 GMT+03:00 Vladimir Ozerov <voze...@gridgain.com>: > Guys, > > We should not have it enabled by default because as Taras mentioned: "but > in this case there is not guarantee that a partition doesn't move from one > node to another when node leave topology". Let's avoid any rush here. There > is nothing terribly wrong with FairAffinity. It is not enabled by default > and at the very least we can always mark it as deprecated. It is better to > test rigorously rendezvous affinity first in terms of partition > distribution and partition migration and decide whether results are > acceptable. > > On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Yakov Zhdanov <yzhda...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > We should have it enabled by default. > > > > --Yakov > > > > 2017-04-10 12:42 GMT+03:00 Sergi Vladykin <sergi.vlady...@gmail.com>: > > > > > Why wouldn't we have useBalancer always enabled? > > > > > > Sergi > > > > > > 2017-04-10 12:31 GMT+03:00 Taras Ledkov <tled...@gridgain.com>: > > > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > > > I worked on issue https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-3018 > > that > > > > is related to performance of Rendezvous AF. > > > > > > > > But Wang/Jenkins hash integer hash distribution is worse then MD5. > So, > > i > > > > try to use simple partition balancer close > > > > to Fair AF for Rendezvous AF. > > > > > > > > Take a look at the heatmaps of distributions at the issue. e.g.: > > > > - Compare of current Rendezvous AF and new Rendezvous AF based of > > > > Wang/Jenkins hash: https://issues.apache.org/jira > > > > /secure/attachment/12858701/004.png > > > > - Compare of current Rendezvous AF and new Rendezvous AF based of > > > > Wang/Jenkins hash with partition balancer: > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira > > > > /secure/attachment/12858690/balanced.004.png > > > > > > > > When the balancer is enabled the distribution of partitions by nodes > > > looks > > > > like close to even distribution > > > > but in this case there is not guarantee that a partition doesn't move > > > from > > > > one node to another > > > > when node leave topology. > > > > It is not guarantee but we try to minimize it because sorted array of > > > > nodes is used (like in for pure-Rendezvous AF). > > > > > > > > I think we can use new fast Rendezvous AF and use 'useBalancer' flag > > > > instead of Fair AF. > > > > > > > > On 09.04.2017 14:12, Valentin Kulichenko wrote: > > > > > > > >> What is the replacement for FairAffinityFunction? > > > >> > > > >> Generally I agree. If FairAffinityFunction can't be changed to > provide > > > >> consistent mapping, it should be dropped. > > > >> > > > >> -Val > > > >> > > > >> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 3:50 AM, Sergi Vladykin < > > > sergi.vlady...@gmail.com > > > >> <mailto:sergi.vlady...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Guys, > > > >> > > > >> It appeared that our FairAffinityFunction can assign the same > > > >> partitions to > > > >> different nodes for different caches. > > > >> > > > >> It basically means that there is no collocation between the > caches > > > >> at all > > > >> even if they have the same affinity. > > > >> > > > >> As a result all SQL joins will not work (even collocated ones), > > > other > > > >> operations that rely on cache collocation will be either broken > or > > > >> work > > > >> slower, than expected. > > > >> > > > >> All this stuff is really non-obvious. And I see no reason why we > > > >> should > > > >> allow that. I suggest to prohibit this behavior and drop > > > >> FairAffinityFunction before 2.0. We have to clearly document > that > > > >> the same > > > >> affinity function must provide the same partition assignments > for > > > >> all the > > > >> caches. > > > >> > > > >> Also I know that Taras Ledkov was working on a decent stateless > > > >> replacement > > > >> for FairAffinity, so we should not loose anything here. > > > >> > > > >> Thoughts? > > > >> > > > >> Sergi > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > -- > > > > Taras Ledkov > > > > Mail-To: tled...@gridgain.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > >