It definitely makes sense to add a separate mode for Ignite in H2. Though
it is wrong to think that it will allow us to add any crazy syntax we want
(and it is actually a wrong idea imo), only the minor variations of the
existing syntax. But this must be enough.

I believe we should end up with something like

CREATE TABLE person
(
  id INT PRIMARY KEY,
  orgId INT AFFINITY KEY,
  name VARCHAR
)
WITH "cfg:my_config_template.xml"

Sergi


2017-04-12 7:54 GMT+03:00 Dmitriy Setrakyan <[email protected]>:

> Agree, the updated syntax looks better. One change though: KEY -> PRIMARY
> KEY.
>
> Sergi, what do you think?
>
> D.
>
> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 9:50 PM, Pavel Tupitsyn <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > I think "WITH" syntax is ugly and cumbersome.
> >
> > We should go with this one:
> > CREATE TABLE Person (id int AFFINITY KEY, uid uuid KEY, firstName
> > varchar, lastName varchar)
> >
> > All databases (i.e. [1], [2]) work this way, I see no reason to invent
> > something different and confuse the users.
> >
> > [1]
> > https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sql/t-sql/statements/create
> > -table-transact-sql#syntax-1
> > [2] https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.1/static/sql-createtable.html
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 6:12 AM, Alexander Paschenko <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Dmitry,
> > >
> > > For H2 it would be something like this - please note all those quotes,
> > > commas and equality signs that would be mandatory:
> > >
> > > CREATE TABLE Person (id int, uid uuid, firstName varchar, lastName
> > > varchar) WITH "keyFields=id,uuid","affinityKey=id"
> > >
> > > With suggested approach, it would be something like
> > >
> > > CREATE TABLE Person (id int AFFINITY KEY, uid uuid KEY, firstName
> > > varchar, lastName varchar)
> > >
> > > While this may not look like a drastic improvement in this particular
> > > case, we someday most likely will want either an all-custom CREATE
> > > CACHE command, or a whole bunch of new options for CREATE TABLE, if we
> > > decide not to go with CREATE CACHE - I personally think that stuff
> > > like
> > >
> > > CREATE TABLE ... WITH
> > > "keyFields=id,uuid","affinityKey=id","cacheType=
> partitioned","atomicity=
> > > atomic","partitions=3"
> > >
> > > which will arise if we continue to try to stuff everything into WITH
> > > will just bring more ugliness with time, and that's not to mention
> > > that new CREATE CACHE syntax will be impossible or relatively hard to
> > > introduce as we will have to approve it with H2 folks, and that's how
> > > it will be with any new param or command that we want.
> > >
> > > Allowing to plug custom parser into H2 (as we do now with table
> > > engine) will let us introduce any syntax we want and focus on
> > > usability and not on compromises and workarounds (which WITH keyword
> > > currently is).
> > >
> > > - Alex
> > >
> > > 2017-04-12 5:11 GMT+03:00 Dmitriy Setrakyan <[email protected]>:
> > > > Alexeander,
> > > >
> > > > Can you please provide an example of what the CREATE TABLE command
> > would
> > > > look like if we use WITH syntax from H2 vs. what you are proposing?
> > > >
> > > > D.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 6:35 PM, Alexander Paschenko <
> > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hello Igniters,
> > > >>
> > > >> Yup, it's THAT time once again as we haven't ultimately settled on
> > > >> anything with the subj. as of yet, but I believe that now with DDL
> on
> > > >> its way this talk can't be avoided anymore (sorry guys).
> > > >>
> > > >> The last time we talked about Ignite specific stuff we need to have
> in
> > > >> CREATE TABLE (key fields list, affinity key, am I missing
> anything?),
> > > >> the simplest approach suggested by Sergi was that we simply use WITH
> > > >> part of H2's CREATE TABLE to pass stuff we need.
> > > >>
> > > >> This could work, but needless to say that such commands would look
> > plain
> > > >> ugly.
> > > >>
> > > >> I think we should go with custom syntax after all, BUT not in a way
> > > >> suggested before by Sergi (propose Apache Ignite mode to H2).
> > > >>
> > > >> Instead, I suggest that we propose to H2 patch that would allow
> > > >> plugging in *custom SQL parser* directly based on theirs (quite
> > > >> elegant one) – I've had a look at their code, and this should not be
> > > >> hard.
> > > >>
> > > >> Work on such a patch making syntax parsing overridable would take a
> > > >> couple days which is not much time AND would give us the opportunity
> > > >> to introduce to Ignite virtually any syntax we wish - both now and
> in
> > > >> the future. Without worrying about compatibility with H2 ever again,
> > > >> that is.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thoughts? After we agree on this principally and after H2 patch for
> > > >> custom parsing is ready, we can roll our sleeves and focus on syntax
> > > >> itself.
> > > >>
> > > >> - Alex
> > > >>
> > >
> >
>

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