The idea so far is to have a single system property in configuration that
turns this off completely. I envision that this will be prominently
featured on Ignite website so that everyone who would like to disable it -
can do it in seconds.

Thoughts?

--
Nikita Ivanov
Founder & CTO
GridGain Systems

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 9:27 PM, Roman Shtykh <rsht...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Nikita,
>
> Sending and storing (somewhere the company cannot securely handle) any
> information (OS version, IP addresses, etc.) that can be used to compromise
> the services would be unacceptable.
> Turning it off might be ok (possibly through the cluster settings, not via
> globally-accessible site), but the thing that there's a risk some
> information can leak outside (for any reason, starting from a human
> mistake) is scary.
>
> -- Roman
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, July 6, 2017 12:38 PM, Nikita Ivanov <niva...@gridgain.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Roman,
> Thanks for the feedback. What are those questions specifically? Are IP
> addresses and OS is what causing it?
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Nikita Ivanov
> Founder & CTO
> GridGain Systems
>
> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Roman Shtykh <rsht...@yahoo.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> NIkita,
>
> While this will help improve Ignite, it will prevent its adoption by many
> projects -- sending and retaining IP adresses, OS versions, etc. raises
> tons of questions when considering to use Ignite. Even if it can be opted
> out.
> -- Roman
>
>
>     On Thursday, July 6, 2017 5:38 AM, Nikita Ivanov <nivano...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>  Igniters,
> I would like to kick off the discussion on the idea of collecting Ignite
> usage statistics. The basic idea behind this is to better understand
> general and anonymous Ignite usage information to better calibrate
> community efforts in developing new features, improving existing ones,
> delivering better documentation - and in every other way to make our
> project a better software solution.
>
> Although such instrumentation is standard practice in commercially
> developed software, for an ASF project this could be a sensitive issue.
> Therefore I would like to initiate a full community discussion on how best
> to implement such practice for the benefit of project while ensuring the
> privacy protection of Ignite users.
>
> To ignite (pun intended) the discussion I'll outline below some of the
> basic thoughts that I have on this subject. They are here only to give an
> idea of what such instrumentation may potentially look like so that we can
> discuss the merits of this idea in a tangible context.
>
> Overview
> -------------
> Upon start and every hour thereafter each Ignite node will collect, encrypt
> and send usage statistics over HTTPS to the ASF-hosted server. That server
> will accept such HTTPS packets, decrypt them and store them in a
> time-series DB. A web interface will be provided to view the usage
> information.
>
> Opt-In or Opt-out
> -------------------------
> Opt-out. Ignite website will offer simple instructions (system property) on
> how to disable this instrumentation.
>
> Code, Infra, Access
> ---------------------------
> Ignite instrumentation will be part of the Ignite code base. The collection
> server will be a separate module in the Ignite code base (released
> separately from Ignite). The collection server will be hosted by ASF Infra.
>
> Usage statistics will be publicly accessible by anyone in the community.
>
> Private, Personal Data
> ------------------------------
> No private or personal data will ever be transferred. No emails, usernames,
> company names, grid names, etc.
>
> Data Retention
> --------------------
> All data will be retained for 1 year and deleted permanently thereafter.
>
> Usage Data
> ----------------
> The following data will be collected in each packet sent to the collection
> server:
> - GRID_SIZE (to correspond our testing environment with the more frequent
> cluster sizes)
> - IP_ADDR (for general geo-tracking as well as to know what documentation
> language should be a priority)
> - SES_ID (to track continues uptime vs. re-starts)
> - USERNAME_TYPE (privilege username vs. standard, to track production vs.
> dev/testing usage; note - this is not an actual username)
> - OS_NAME
> - OS_VER
> - OS_ARCH
> - JAVA_VER
> - JAVA_VENDOR
> - COMP_SQL (whether or not this feature was used)
> - COMP_COMPUTE (whether or not this feature was used)
> - COMP_DATAGRID (whether or not this feature was used)
> - COMP_STREAMING (whether or not this feature was used)
> - COMP_IGFS (whether or not this feature was used)
> - COMP_SERVICE (whether or not this feature was used)
> - COMP_PERSISTENCE (whether or not this feature was used)
>
> Please let's discuss this idea. Everyone's comments and suggestions are
> *extremely* welcome.
>
> Thanks,
> Nikita Ivanov.
>
>
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