Hi Val, Pretty much, with obvious exceptions being integration modules with other projects. If the dependency is well isolated, then shading could be beneficial.
I've also had to do this for client libraries operating inside other frameworks (I've had to shade netty to avoid conflicting with user code). It's a good alternative since relying on things like OSGi isn't all that practical due to lack of widespread adoption. -Nick On Mon, Aug 21, 2017, 10:48 AM Valentin Kulichenko < valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Nick, > > Do you suggest to build and deploy uber-jars that has no external > dependencies? > > -Val > > On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Nick Pordash <nickpord...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > If the dependency is not exposed by the public API then another > alternative > > is to simply shade the artifact and then this becomes a non-issue for > > users. > > > > Considering Ignite is a platform that executes user code via compute and > > service grid I personally think it would be good to minimize the number > of > > dependencies that can potentially conflict with user code. > > > > -Nick > > > > On Sun, Aug 20, 2017, 11:51 AM Valentin Kulichenko < > > valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Guys, > > > > > > Keep in mind that some projects can use *older* version of third-party > > > libraries as well, and dependency upgrade can break them. In other > words, > > > dependency upgrade is in many cases an incompatible change for us, so > we > > > should do this with care. > > > > > > Unless there is a specific reason to upgrade a specific dependency, I > > think > > > it's better to postpone it until major version. > > > > > > -Val > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 5:04 AM 李玉珏@163 <18624049...@163.com> wrote: > > > > > > > If the third party library is incompatible with the new version and > the > > > > old version (such as lucene3.5.0-5.5.2), and the dependent version of > > > > Ignite is older, it may cause conflicts in the user's system. > > > > For such scenarios, I think that updating third-party dependencies's > > > > major version is valuable. > > > > > > > > > > > > 在 2017/8/17 上午8:26, Denis Magda 写道: > > > > > I would respond why do we need to update? Some bug, new > capabilities, > > > > security breach? Alexey K., please shed some light on this. > > > > > > > > > > — > > > > > Denis > > > > > > > > > >> On Aug 16, 2017, at 5:12 PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan < > > dsetrak...@apache.org > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org> > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >>> Honestly, I wouldn’t touch a dependency if it works like a charm > > and > > > > >>> nobody requested us to migrate to a new version. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Why do you need to update Apache Common coded? > > > > >>> > > > > >> Not sure I agree. Why not update it? > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> — > > > > >>> Denis > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Alexey Kuznetsov < > > > akuznet...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > >>>> Done > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-6090 > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 8:01 PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan < > > > > >>> dsetrak...@apache.org> > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>> The answer is Yes, we should update. Jira ticket assigned to > the > > > next > > > > >>>>> release should be enough in my view. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> D. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 2:38 AM, Alexey Kuznetsov < > > > > >>> akuznet...@apache.org> > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Hi, All! > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Do we have any policy for updating third-party dependencies? > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> For example, I found that we are using very old Apache Common > > > codec > > > > >>>>> v.1.6 > > > > >>>>>> (released in 2011) > > > > >>>>>> And latest is Apache Common codec v.1.10 > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Do we need to update to new versions from time to time? > > > > >>>>>> And how? > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Just create JIRA issue, update pom.xml and run all tests on > TC - > > > > will > > > > >>> be > > > > >>>>>> enough? > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> -- > > > > >>>>>> Alexey Kuznetsov > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> -- > > > > >>>> Alexey Kuznetsov > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >