Petr, good point. It is more intuitive, we should mark test we can ignore
by mute.

So Vladimir, you or other Ignite veteran can mute test, if can say it is
not important.

чт, 24 мая 2018 г. в 15:07, Petr Ivanov <mr.wei...@gmail.com>:

> Why cannot we mute (and file corresponding tickets) all test failures
> (including flaky) to some date and start initiative Green TC?
>
>
>
> > On 24 May 2018, at 15:04, Vladimir Ozerov <voze...@gridgain.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dmitry,
> >
> > We cannot add this requirements, because we do have failures on TC. This
> > requirement implies that all development would stop until TC is green.
> > We never had old requirement work, neither we need to enforce it now.
> >
> > On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 2:59 PM, Dmitry Pavlov <dpavlov....@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> 3.c
> >>
> >>   1. All test suites *MUST* be run on TeamCity [3] before merge to
> master,
> >>   there *MUST NOT* be any test failures
> >>
> >>
> >> 'New' word should be removed because we cant separate `new` and `non
> new`
> >> failures.
> >>
> >> Let's imagine example, we have 50 green runs in master. And PR Run-All
> >> contains this test failed. Is it new or not new? Actually we don't know.
> >>
> >> Existing requirement is about all TC must be green, so let's keep it as
> is.
> >>
> >> ср, 23 мая 2018 г. в 17:02, Vladimir Ozerov <voze...@gridgain.com>:
> >>
> >>> Igniters,
> >>>
> >>> I created review checklist on WIKI [1] and also fixed related pages
> (e.g.
> >>> "How To Contribute"). Please let me know if you have any comments
> before
> >> I
> >>> go with public announce.
> >>>
> >>> Vladimir.
> >>>
> >>> [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Review+Checklist
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 5:10 PM, Vladimir Ozerov <voze...@gridgain.com
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Ilya,
> >>>>
> >>>> We define that exception messages *SHOULD* have clear explanation on
> >> what
> >>>> is wrong. *SHOULD* mean that the rule should be followed unless there
> >> is
> >>> a
> >>>> reason not to follow. In your case you refer to some unexpected
> >> behavior.
> >>>> I.e. an exceptional situation developer is not aware of. In this case
> >> for
> >>>> sure we cannot force contributor to explain what is wrong, because,
> >> well,
> >>>> we don't know. This is why we relaxed the rule from *MUST* to
> *SHOULD*.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 3:50 PM, Ilya Kasnacheev <
> >>>> ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I don't think I quite understand how exception explanations should
> >> work.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Imagine we have the following exception:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> // At least RuntimeException can be thrown by the code above when
> >>>>> GridCacheContext is cleaned and there is
> >>>>> // an attempt to use cleaned resources.
> >>>>> U.error(log, "Unexpected exception during cache update", e);
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I mean, we genuinely don't know what happened here.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Under new rules, what kind of "workaround" would that exception
> >> suggest?
> >>>>> "Try turning it off and then back on"?
> >>>>> What explanation how to resolve this exception can we offer? "Please
> >>> write
> >>>>> to d...@apache.ignite.org or to Apache JIRA, and then wait for a
> >> release
> >>>>> with fix?"
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm really confused how we can implement 1.6 and 1.7 when dealing
> with
> >>>>> messy real-world code.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Ilya Kasnacheev
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2018-05-10 11:39 GMT+03:00 Vladimir Ozerov <voze...@gridgain.com>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Andrey, Anton, Alex
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Agree, *SHOULD* is more appropriate here.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Please see latest version below. Does anyone want to add or change
> >>>>>> something? Let's wait for several days for more feedback and then
> >>>>> publish
> >>>>>> and announce this list. Note that it would not be carved in stone
> >> and
> >>> we
> >>>>>> will be able to change it at any time if needed.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 1) API
> >>>>>> 1.1) API compatibility *MUST* be maintained between minor releases.
> >> Do
> >>>>> not
> >>>>>> remove existing methods or change their signatures, deprecate them
> >>>>> instead
> >>>>>> 1.2) Default behaviour "SHOULD NOT* be changed between minor
> >> releases,
> >>>>>> unless absolutely needed. If change is made, it *MUST* be described
> >> in
> >>>>>> "Migration Guide"
> >>>>>> 1.3) New operation *MUST* be well-documented in code (javadoc,
> >>>>> dotnetdoc):
> >>>>>> documentation must contain method's purpose, description of
> >> parameters
> >>>>> and
> >>>>>> how their values affect the outcome, description of return value and
> >>>>> it's
> >>>>>> default, behavior in negative cases, interaction with other
> >> operations
> >>>>> and
> >>>>>> components
> >>>>>> 1.4) API parity between Java and .NET platforms *SHOULD* be
> >> maintained
> >>>>> when
> >>>>>> operation makes sense on both platforms. If method cannot be
> >>>>> implemented in
> >>>>>> a platform immediately, new JIRA ticket *MUST* be created and linked
> >>> to
> >>>>>> current ticket
> >>>>>> 1.5) API parity between thin clients (Java, .NET) *SHOULD* be
> >>> maintained
> >>>>>> when operation makes sense on several clients. If method cannot be
> >>>>>> implemented in a client immediately, new JIRA ticket *MUST* be
> >> created
> >>>>> and
> >>>>>> linked to current ticket
> >>>>>> 1.6) All exceptions thrown to a user **SHOULD** have explanation how
> >>> to
> >>>>>> resolve, workaround or debug an error
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2) Compatibility
> >>>>>> 2.1) Persistence backward compatibility *MUST* be maintained between
> >>>>> minor
> >>>>>> releases. It should be possible to start newer version on data files
> >>>>>> created by the previous version
> >>>>>> 2.2) Thin client forward and backward compatibility *SHOULD* be
> >>>>> maintained
> >>>>>> between two consecutive minor releases. If compatibility cannot be
> >>>>>> maintained it *MUST* be described in "Migration Guide"
> >>>>>> 2.3) JDBC and ODBC forward and backward compatibility *SHOULD* be
> >>>>>> maintained between two consecutive minor releases. If compatibility
> >>>>> cannot
> >>>>>> be maintained it *MUST* be described in "Migration Guide"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 3) Tests
> >>>>>> 3.1) New functionality *MUST* be covered with unit tests for both
> >>>>> positive
> >>>>>> and negative use cases
> >>>>>> 3.2) All test suites *MUST* be run before merge to master..There
> >>> *MUST*
> >>>>> be
> >>>>>> no new test failures
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 4) Code style *MUST* be followed as per Ignite's Coding Guidelines
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Vladimir.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 1:05 PM, Andrey Kuznetsov <stku...@gmail.com
> >>>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Anton,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I agree, *MUST* for exception reasons and *SHOULD* for ways of
> >>>>> resolution
> >>>>>>> sound clearer.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 2018-05-08 12:56 GMT+03:00 Anton Vinogradov <a...@apache.org>:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Andrey,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> How about
> >>>>>>>> 1.6) All exceptions thrown to a user *MUST* have explanation of
> >>>>>>> workaround
> >>>>>>>> and contain original error.
> >>>>>>>> All exceptions thrown to a user *SHOULD* have explanation how to
> >>>>>> resolve
> >>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>>> possible.
> >>>>>>>> ?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> вт, 8 мая 2018 г. в 12:26, Andrey Kuznetsov <stku...@gmail.com
> >>> :
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Vladimir, checklist looks pleasant enough for me.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I'd like to suggest one minor change. In 1.6 *MUST* seems to
> >> be
> >>>>> too
> >>>>>>>> strict,
> >>>>>>>>> *SHOULD* would be enough. It can be frustrating for API user
> >> if
> >>> I
> >>>>>>> explain
> >>>>>>>>> how to fix NPEs in a trivial way, for example.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 2018-05-08 11:34 GMT+03:00 Anton Vinogradov <a...@apache.org>:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Alex,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> It is not sounds like that, obviously.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Tests should cover all negative and positive cases.
> >>>>>>>>>> You should add enough tests to cover all cases.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Sometimes one test can cover more than one case, so two
> >> tests
> >>>>> *CAN*
> >>>>>>>>>> partially check same things.
> >>>>>>>>>> In case some cases already covered you should not create
> >>>>>> duplicates.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> вт, 8 мая 2018 г. в 10:19, Александр Меньшиков <
> >>>>>> sharple...@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>> :
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Vladimir, the 3.1 is a bit unclear for me. Which code
> >>>>> coverage is
> >>>>>>>>>>> acceptable? Now it sounds like two tests are enough (one
> >> for
> >>>>>>> positive
> >>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>> one for negative cases).
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 2018-05-07 23:09 GMT+03:00 Dmitriy Setrakyan <
> >>>>>>> dsetrak...@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>> :
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Is this list on the Wiki?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 7:26 AM, Vladimir Ozerov <
> >>>>>>>>> voze...@gridgain.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Igniters,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the checklist I have at the moment. Please let
> >>> me
> >>>>>> know
> >>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> any comments on existing items, or want to add or
> >> remove
> >>>>>>>> anything.
> >>>>>>>>> It
> >>>>>>>>>>>> looks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> like we may have not only strict rules, but *nice to
> >>> have*
> >>>>>>> points
> >>>>>>>>>> here
> >>>>>>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> well with help of *MUST*, *SHOULD* and *MAY* words as
> >>> per
> >>>>>>> RFC2119
> >>>>>>>>>> [1].
> >>>>>>>>>>> So
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> please feel free to suggest optional items as well.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) API
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.1) API compatibility *MUST* be maintained between
> >>> minor
> >>>>>>>> releases.
> >>>>>>>>>> Do
> >>>>>>>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> remove existing methods or change their signatures,
> >>>>> deprecate
> >>>>>>>> them
> >>>>>>>>>>>> instead
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.2) Default behaviour "SHOULD NOT* be changed between
> >>>>> minor
> >>>>>>>>>> releases,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> unless absolutely needed. If change is made, it *MUST*
> >>> be
> >>>>>>>> described
> >>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Migration Guide"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.3) New operation *MUST* be well-documented in code
> >>>>>> (javadoc,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> dotnetdoc):
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation must contain method's purpose,
> >> description
> >>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>> parameters
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> how their values affect the outcome, description of
> >>> return
> >>>>>>> value
> >>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>> it's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> default, behavior in negative cases, interaction with
> >>>>> other
> >>>>>>>>>> operations
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> components
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.4) API parity between Java and .NET platforms
> >> *SHOULD*
> >>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>> maintained
> >>>>>>>>>>>> when
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> operation makes sense on both platforms. If method
> >>> cannot
> >>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>> implemented
> >>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> a platform immediately, new JIRA ticket *MUST* be
> >>> created
> >>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> linked
> >>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> current ticket
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.5) API parity between thin clients (Java, .NET)
> >>>>> *SHOULD* be
> >>>>>>>>>>> maintained
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> when operation makes sense on several clients. If
> >> method
> >>>>>> cannot
> >>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> implemented in a client immediately, new JIRA ticket
> >>>>> *MUST*
> >>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>> created
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> linked to current ticket
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.6) All exceptions thrown to a user *MUST* have
> >>>>> explanation
> >>>>>>> how
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> resolve, workaround or debug an error
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Compatibility
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.1) Persistence backward compatibility *MUST* be
> >>>>> maintained
> >>>>>>>>> between
> >>>>>>>>>>>> minor
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> releases. It should be possible to start newer version
> >>> on
> >>>>>> data
> >>>>>>>>> files
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> created by the previous version
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.2) Thin client forward and backward compatibility
> >>>>> *SHOULD*
> >>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>> maintained
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> between two consecutive minor releases. If
> >> compatibility
> >>>>>> cannot
> >>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> maintained it *MUST* be described in "Migration Guide"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.3) JDBC and ODBC forward and backward compatibility
> >>>>>> *SHOULD*
> >>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> maintained between two consecutive minor releases. If
> >>>>>>>> compatibility
> >>>>>>>>>>>> cannot
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> be maintained it *MUST* be described in "Migration
> >>> Guide"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Tests
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.1) New functionality *MUST* be covered with unit
> >> tests
> >>>>> for
> >>>>>>> both
> >>>>>>>>>>>> positive
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and negative use cases
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2) All test suites *MUST* be run before merge to
> >>>>>>> master..There
> >>>>>>>>>> *MUST*
> >>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> no new test failures
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4) Code style *MUST* be followed as per Ignite's
> >> Coding
> >>>>>>>> Guidelines
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Vladimir.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2119.txt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 4:33 PM, Vladimir Ozerov <
> >>>>>>>>>> voze...@gridgain.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Dmitry,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I'll do that in the nearest days.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 8:24 PM, Dmitry Pavlov <
> >>>>>>>>>>> dpavlov....@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igniters, the idea was related to small
> >> refactorings
> >>>>>>>> co-located
> >>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> main
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Main change itself indicates that existing code did
> >>> not
> >>>>>> meet
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> criteria
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of practice. Approving of standalone refactorings
> >>>>> instead
> >>>>>>>>>>> contradicts
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> principle don't touch if it works. So I still like
> >>>>> idea of
> >>>>>>>>>>> co-located
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes improving code, javadocs, style, etc.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But let's not argue about this point now, let's
> >>>>> summarize
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> undisputed
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> points and add it to the wiki. Vladimir, would you
> >>>>> please
> >>>>>> do
> >>>>>>>> it?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ср, 25 апр. 2018 г. в 16:42, Nikolay Izhikov <
> >>>>>>>>> nizhi...@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>> :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igniters,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree with Vova.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't fix if it works!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you 100% sure then it a useful addition to the
> >>>>>> product
> >>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>>> just
> >>>>>>>>>>>> make
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separate ticket.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> В Ср, 25/04/2018 в 11:44 +0300, Vladimir Ozerov
> >>>>> пишет:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guys,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem with in-place refactorings is that
> >>> you
> >>>>>>>> increase
> >>>>>>>>>>>> affected
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scope.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not uncommon to break compatibility or
> >>> public
> >>>>>>>>> contracts
> >>>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minor things. E.g. recently we decided drop
> >>>>> org.jsr166
> >>>>>>>>> package
> >>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> favor
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Java 8 classes. Innocent change. Result -
> >> broken
> >>>>>>> storage.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Another
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is conflicts. It is not uncommon to have
> >>> long-lived
> >>>>>>>> branches
> >>>>>>>>>>> which
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to merge with master over and over again. And a
> >>>>> lot of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> refactorings
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conflicts. It is much easier to resolve them if
> >>> you
> >>>>>> know
> >>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>> logic
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affected as opposed to cases when you need to
> >>>>> resolve
> >>>>>>> both
> >>>>>>>>>>> renames
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> method extractions along with business-logic
> >>>>> changes.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to repeat - if you have a time for
> >>>>>> refactoring
> >>>>>>>> then
> >>>>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definitely
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a time to extract these changes to
> >> separate
> >>> PR
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>> submit a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separate
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ticket. I am quite understand what "low
> >> priority"
> >>>>> do
> >>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>> mean
> >>>>>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refactorings on your own.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 10:52 PM, Andrey
> >>> Kuznetsov
> >>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> stku...@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once again, I beg for "small refactoring
> >>>>> permission"
> >>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> checklist.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> today, separate tickets for small
> >> refactorings
> >>>>> has
> >>>>>>>> lowest
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> priority,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they neither fix any flaw nor add new
> >>>>> functionality.
> >>>>>>>> Also,
> >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attempts to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make issue-related code safer / cleaner /
> >> more
> >>>>>>> readable
> >>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "real"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pull
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requests are typically rejected, since they
> >>>>>> contradict
> >>>>>>>> our
> >>>>>>>>>>>> current
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guidelines.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand this will require a bit more
> >>> effort
> >>>>>> from
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committer/maintainer,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but otherwise we will get constantly
> >> degrading
> >>>>> code
> >>>>>>>>> quality.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-04-24 18:52 GMT+03:00 Eduard Shangareev
> >> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eduard.shangar...@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vladimir,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not talking about
> >> massive/sophisticated
> >>>>>>>>> refactoring.
> >>>>>>>>>>> But
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that ask to extract some methods should be
> >> OK
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>> do
> >>>>>>>>>> without
> >>>>>>>>>>> an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extra
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ticket.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A checklist shouldn't be necessarily a set
> >> of
> >>>>>>> certain
> >>>>>>>>>> rules
> >>>>>>>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could include suggestion and reminders.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 6:39 PM, Vladimir
> >>>>> Ozerov <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voze...@gridgain.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Refactoring is a separate task. If you
> >>> would
> >>>>>> like
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>> rework
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - please do this in a ticket "Refactor
> >>>>> exchange
> >>>>>>>> task",
> >>>>>>>>>>>> nobody
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this. This is just a matter of creating
> >>>>> separate
> >>>>>>>>> ticket
> >>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separate
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PR.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one have a time for refactoring, it
> >> should
> >>>>> not
> >>>>>> be
> >>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>> problem
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> him to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spend several minutes on JIRA and GitHub.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as documentation - what you
> >> describe
> >>>>> is
> >>>>>>>> normal
> >>>>>>>>>>> review
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reviewer might want to ask contributor to
> >>> fix
> >>>>>>>>> something.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Checklist
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different thing - this is a set of rules
> >>>>> which
> >>>>>>> must
> >>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> followed
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not understand how you can define
> >>>>>>> documentation
> >>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> checklist.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same problem with logging - what is
> >>> "enough"?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 4:51 PM, Eduard
> >>>>>>> Shangareev <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eduard.shangar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igniters,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why you are so
> >> against
> >>>>>>>>> refactoring.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Code already smells like hell. Methods
> >>> 200+
> >>>>>> line
> >>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>> normal.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exchange
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is asking to be separated on several
> >> one.
> >>>>>>>>> Transaction
> >>>>>>>>>>> code
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> few people.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we separate refactoring from
> >>>>> development it
> >>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>>>> mean
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no one
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Documentation.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everything which was asked by reviewers
> >>> to
> >>>>>>> clarify
> >>>>>>>>>> idea
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reflected
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the code.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Logging.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Logging should be enough to
> >> troubleshoot
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> problem
> >>>>>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user-list with an issue in the code.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 7:06 PM, Dmitry
> >>>>>> Pavlov <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dpavlov....@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Igniters,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 to idea of checklist.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 to refactoring and documenting
> >> code
> >>>>>> related
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>> ticket
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +/-20
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOC
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we start to do it as part of our
> >>>>> regular
> >>>>>>>>>>>> contribution,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better, it would became common
> >> practice
> >>>>> and
> >>>>>>> part
> >>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ignite
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> development culure.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we will hope we will have free
> >> time
> >>> to
> >>>>>>> submit
> >>>>>>>>>>>> separate
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patch
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someday
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have patience to complete
> >>>>> patch-submission
> >>>>>>>>> process,
> >>>>>>>>>>> code
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remain
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> undocumented and poor-readable.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dmitriy Pavlov
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> пт, 20 апр. 2018 г. в 18:56,
> >> Александр
> >>>>>>>> Меньшиков <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sharple...@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4) Metrics.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> partially +1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It makes sense to have some minimal
> >>>>> code
> >>>>>>>>> coverage
> >>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> new
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PR.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMHO.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, we can limit the cyclomatic
> >>>>>> complexity
> >>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> new
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PR
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6) Refactoring
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand why people want to
> >>>>> refactor
> >>>>>> old
> >>>>>>>>> code.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I think refactoring should be
> >>>>> always a
> >>>>>>>>>> separate
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> task.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And it's better to remove all
> >>>>> refactoring
> >>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>>>> PR,
> >>>>>>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sense
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the issue.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-04-20 16:54 GMT+03:00 Andrey
> >>>>>> Kuznetsov
> >>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stku...@gmail.com>:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about adding the following
> >>> item
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> checklist:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adds
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new functionality, then unit
> >> tests
> >>>>>> should
> >>>>>>>> also
> >>>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provided, if
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technically possible?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for refactorings, in fact they
> >>> are
> >>>>>>>> strongly
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discouraged
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> today
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unclear reason. Let's permit to
> >>> make
> >>>>>>>>>> refactorings
> >>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> checklist
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussed. (Of cource,
> >> refactoring
> >>>>>> should
> >>>>>>>>> relate
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solved.)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-04-20 16:16 GMT+03:00
> >> Vladimir
> >>>>>>> Ozerov <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voze...@gridgain.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ed,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately some of these
> >>> points
> >>>>> are
> >>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>>> good
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> candidates
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> checklist because of these:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - It must be clear and disallow
> >>>>>>> *multiple
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interpretations*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - It must be *lightweight*,
> >>>>> otherwise
> >>>>>>>> Ignite
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> development
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> become a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nightmare
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We cannot have "nice to have"
> >>>>> points
> >>>>>>> here.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Checklist
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> question "is ticket eligible to
> >>> be
> >>>>>>>> merged?"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Code style.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Documentation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -1, it is impossible to define
> >>>>> what is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "well-documented". A
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> piece
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could be obvious for one
> >>>>> contributor,
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> non-obvious
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> case this is not a blocker for
> >>>>> merge.
> >>>>>>>>> Instead,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> during
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> review
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ask
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implementer to add more docs,
> >> but
> >>>>> it
> >>>>>>>> cannot
> >>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> forced.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Logging
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -1, same problem - what is
> >>> "enough
> >>>>>>>>> logging?".
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Enough
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whom?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand whether it is enough
> >>> or
> >>>>>> not?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4) Metrics
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -1, no clear boundaries, and
> >>>>> decision
> >>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>> whether
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> metrics
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> added
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not should be performed during
> >>>>> design
> >>>>>>>> phase.
> >>>>>>>>>> As
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perfectly
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valid to ask contributor to add
> >>>>>> metrics
> >>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>> clear
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> explanation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is not part of the
> >>> checklist.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5) TC status
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, already mentioned
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6) Refactoring
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Strong -1. OOP is a slippery
> >>> slope,
> >>>>>>> there
> >>>>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>> no
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> good
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and bad
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> receipts
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all cases, hence it cannot be
> >>> used
> >>>>> in
> >>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>> checklist.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can borrow useful rules from
> >>>>> p.2,
> >>>>>> p.3
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>> p.4
> >>>>>>>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definitions on how to measure
> >>> them.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vladimir.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 3:50
> >> PM,
> >>>>>> Eduard
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Shangareev <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eduard.shangar...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, I want to add some
> >>>>> technical
> >>>>>>>>>>> requirement.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Code style.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The code needs to be
> >> formatted
> >>>>>>> according
> >>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> coding
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guidelines
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/
> >>>>>>>>>> confluence/display/IGNITE/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Coding+Guidelines
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code must not contain TODOs
> >>>>> without
> >>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>> ticket
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reference.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is highly recommended to
> >>> make
> >>>>>> major
> >>>>>>>>>>>> formatting
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as a separate commit, to make
> >>>>> review
> >>>>>>>>> process
> >>>>>>>>>>>> more
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> practical.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Documentation.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Added code should be
> >>>>>> well-documented.
> >>>>>>>> Any
> >>>>>>>>>>>> methods
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raise
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regarding their code flow,
> >>>>>> invariants,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> synchronization,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> must
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documented with comprehensive
> >>>>>> javadoc.
> >>>>>>>> Any
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> reviewer
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> request
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particular added method be
> >>>>>> documented.
> >>>>>>>>> Also,
> >>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> is a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> practice
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> document old code in a 10-20
> >>>>> lines
> >>>>>>>> region
> >>>>>>>>>>> around
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changed
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Logging.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make sure that there are
> >> enough
> >>>>>>> logging
> >>>>>>>>>> added
> >>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> category
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible diagnostic in field.
> >>>>> Check
> >>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>> logging
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> messages
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> properly
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spelled.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4) Metrics.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are there any metrics that
> >> need
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>> exposed
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5) TC status.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Recheck that there are no new
> >>>>>> failing
> >>>>>>>>> tests
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6) Refactoring.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The code should be better
> >> than
> >>>>>> before:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   - extract method from big
> >>> one;
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   - do anything else to make
> >>>>> code
> >>>>>>>> clearer
> >>>>>>>>>>>> (don't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forget
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   OOP-practise, replace
> >>> if-else
> >>>>>> hell
> >>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inheritance
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   - split refactoring
> >>> (renaming,
> >>>>>> code
> >>>>>>>>>> format)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actual
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   separate commit
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 3:23
> >>> PM,
> >>>>>>> Eduard
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Shangareev <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eduard.shangar...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, guys.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe that we should
> >>> update
> >>>>>>>>>> maintainers
> >>>>>>>>>>>> list
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adding
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> review
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requirement.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There should not be the
> >>>>> situation
> >>>>>>> when
> >>>>>>>>>> there
> >>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributor
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is responsible for a
> >>> component.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We already have issues with
> >>>>> review
> >>>>>>>> speed
> >>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> response
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at
> >> 2:17
> >>>>> PM,
> >>>>>>> Anton
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Vinogradov
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a...@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vova,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everything you described
> >>>>> sound
> >>>>>>> good
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>> me.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to propose to
> >>> create
> >>>>>>>> special
> >>>>>>>>>> page
> >>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> AI
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wiki
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> describe
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> checklist.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In case we'll find
> >>> something
> >>>>>>> should
> >>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changed/improved
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easy
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> update the page.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-04-20 0:53 GMT+03:00
> >>>>>> Nikolay
> >>>>>>>>>> Izhikov
> >>>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nizhi...@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, Vladimir.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for seting up
> >>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>> discussion.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As we discussed, I
> >> think
> >>> an
> >>>>>>>>> important
> >>>>>>>>>>> part
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> check
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compatibility rules.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * What should be
> >> backward
> >>>>>>>>> compatible?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * How should we
> >> maintain
> >>>>> it?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) If ticket changes
> >>>>> public
> >>>>>>> API
> >>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> existing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behavior,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commiters should
> >> approve
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> changes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can learn from other
> >>>>> open
> >>>>>>>> source
> >>>>>>>>>>>> project
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Kafka [1], for
> >>>>> example,
> >>>>>>>>>> requires
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP(kafka
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvement
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proposal)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for *every* major
> >> change.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Major change definition
> >>>>>> includes
> >>>>>>>>>> public
> >>>>>>>>>>>> API.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conf

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