Petr,

Were you ever able to successfully start an Ignite node from Ubuntu on
Windows 10?

It looks like a node startup hangs for me. Here is the message I am getting
when bringing up a node in verbose mode:

*[18:24:27,778][WARNING][main][TcpDiscoverySpi] Node has not been connected
> to topology and will repeat join process. Check remote nodes logs for
> possible error messages. Note that large topology may require significant
> time to start. Increase 'TcpDiscoverySpi.networkTimeout' configuration
> property if getting this message on the starting nodes
> [networkTimeout=5000]*


Just by looking how much I am struggling to bring up a node, I can only
imagine what our poor users are going through when trying this out.

D.

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 2:06 AM, Petr Ivanov <mr.wei...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dmitriy,
>
>
> I’ve replaced root user requirement with ignite user requirement. It is
> necessary because after installation ignite user receive all Apache Ignite
> work directories ownership (to be able to write woking files there).
> In fact, Apache Ignite as a service is configured to run just under the
> same user — ignite.
>
> So — it is yes and no. Issuing systemctl command and editing configuration
> files at /etc/apache-ignite does require root permissions, however the
> Apache Ignite Java process itself runs under unprivileged user ignite with
> no password and no login shell, thus making running process significantly
> less susceptible to outside impact.
> And to be able to run Apache Ignite as a standalone process — it is enough
> to login as ignite user (as it is mentioned in documentation) and run
> ignite.sh as usual.
>
>
>
>
> > On 5 Jun 2018, at 08:00, Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrak...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Petr,
> >
> > I think it was Denis who reworked the documentation. In any case, if you
> > see something lacking you can fix it.
> >
> > Just to clarify, are you suggesting that you don't have to be root to run
> > the Ignite process after the package install?
> >
> > D.
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 9:31 PM, Petr Ivanov <mr.wei...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>>  1. Remove the requirement to run Ignite scripts as root. This will be
> a
> >>>  huge No in most environment and we should fix it.
> >>
> >>
> >>> There is already a ticket for point 1:
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-8695 <
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-8695>
> >>
> >> 1. I am not the author of this part of instruction — someone, who
> >> completely reworked that section about running ignite as standalone
> process
> >> should also remove / rework the “require root permissions” part because
> in
> >> my version of documentation there was requirement to run as root, but
> >> requirement to run as ignite user (logining in into it with specified
> >> shell, because it is disabled by default — as it should be done for
> every
> >> service) due to packages’ postinstall scripts that assign ignite user
> >> permissions on all Apache Ignite directories.
> >>
> >>
> >>>  2. Add Ignite "bin" folder to PATH, so all Ignite scripts will be
> >>>  executable without specifying the whole path name (not sure if it is
> >>>  already done or not)
> >>
> >> 2. We should not. Instead, we have to symlink all required scripts from
> >> bin/ to /usr/bin, providing changes to scripts it selves, so that they
> can
> >> be called from /usr/bin as if from $IGNITE_HOME ('readlink' command to
> find
> >> real symlink location).
> >>
> >>
> >>> I do remember the multi-package approach was suggested as a solution to
> >>> trim down the size of the binary that is hosted by ASF. Since now the
> >>> binaries are hosted in Bintray, do we still have that issue? If it's
> fine
> >>> to preload and keep big binaries in Bintray then I would suggest us to
> >>> postpone the multi-package activities until there is a real demand.
> >>
> >>
> >> 3. The multi-package approach was also suggested for more accurate
> >> architecture and more flexible updates. And working with smaller
> packages
> >> on development stage is too more reliable and easy.
> >> Yes, we can postpone it (for how long?) but I’d like to insist on
> proposed
> >> layout (and reimplement it rather quickly), because ta least it shows
> our
> >> packages as more mature (no one ships theirs software in single monolith
> >> package, especially in official repositories).
> >>
> >>
> >>> - Make sqlline.sh callable from command line (PATH). E.g. symlink it as
> >>> /usr/bin/sqlline-ignite, make sure it works.
> >>> - Fix control.sh and visor-cmd, expose them too.
> >>
> >> 4. See p.2. Indeed they need to be fixes and exposes 'by the book’.
> >>
> >>
> >>> - Allow specifying of JDK implementation and JDK arguments for Apache
> >>> Ignite startup. Preferably on per configuration basis.
> >>
> >> 5. Agree. We need some kind of 'setenv.sh’ for user-side JDK
> configuration.
> >>
> >>
> >>> - Allow adding-removing "modules" to classpath of Ignite - again,
> >>> preferably on per configuration basis. E.g. what happens if I want to
> >> turn
> >>> ON geospatial/
> >>
> >> 6. Agree, was thinking of it too, in form of 'a2enmod'-like utility for
> >> enabling / disabling optional libs and modules.
> >>
> >>
> >>> - [OPTIONAL] Ship Apache Ignite with a special config which only
> listens
> >> on
> >>> localhost. This is for lazy people who can get into trouble by
> installing
> >>> package without looking without security implications.
> >>
> >> 7. Arguable. Even if we create such config and put into delivery, there
> is
> >> no guarantee that user will read documentation about necessity of using
> >> this special config for security reasons.
> >> I would add BIG warning text to Ignite’s log about security implications
> >> of unprotected cluster.
> >>
> >>
> >>> With regards to splitting package, I think we could have a few of them
> >>> (a-i-core, a-i-doc, a-i-c++, a-i-.net) but I don't think we need to
> have
> >> a
> >>> half dozen of those right away. This was mostly realised as an
> >> antipattern.
> >>
> >> 8. I would at least removed benchmarks, docs and platforms from the core
> >> package.
>
>

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