Got you. If it's about redundant data duplication in onheap region then no any concerns from my side.
Anyway, considering that the data structure will be interacting with the page memory directly then its entries can be stored in Ignite persistence automatically (if the latter is on). Does it mean that the data structure will be fully recovered after a restart and its entries can be pulled from disk on demand? -- Denis On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 1:49 PM Amir Akhmedov <amir.akhme...@gmail.com> wrote: > I also think it will better to remove setDataMap support cause > 1. It's making extra pressure on GC by keeping entries on heap > 2. It has difficult logic to support with lots of nuances > 3. To maintain setDataMap today GridCacheMapEntry calls > cctx.dataStructures().onEntryUpdated() on each entry mutation. I think it's > unnecessary cohesion. > 4. For the case with single Ignite cache for all collocated datastructure, > an iterator creation will not be much slower than current implementation > since we can run affinity call on the node where all entries reside. Also, > we can create a better affinity mapper to fairly distribute datastructures > across a cluster rather than mapping by datastructure's name. > > Thanks, > Amir > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 8:10 AM Anton Vinogradov <a...@apache.org> wrote: > > > Denis, > > > > I think that better case is to remove onheap optimisation/duplication. > > This brings no drop to frequently used operations (put/remove), but even > > will make it slightly faster. > > > > The only one question we have here is "is it possible to restore onheap > map > > in easy way?". > > Seems that answer is no, so, I vote for setDataMap removal. > > > > вт, 26 июн. 2018 г. в 15:00, Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org>: > > > > > Anton, > > > > > > Will it be possible to reuse such a functionality for the rest of data > > > structures? I would invest our time in this if all data structures > would > > be > > > able to work with Ignite persistence this way. > > > > > > -- > > > Denis > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 1:53 AM Anton Vinogradov <a...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > > > > > >> Why don't we read data straight from the persistence layer warming > > RAM > > > > up > > > > >> in the background? > > > > Because it's not a trivial task to finish such loading on unstable > > > > topology. > > > > That's possible, ofcourse, but solution and complexity will be almost > > > > equals to WAL enable/disable. > > > > > > > > пн, 25 июн. 2018 г. в 22:13, Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org>: > > > > > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > > > > > Why don't we read data straight from the persistence layer warming > > RAM > > > up > > > > > in the background? (like we do for SQL and other APIs). If it's a > > > > question > > > > > of time, then I would suggest us not to hurry up and do it in a > right > > > > way. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Denis > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 6:20 AM Anton Vinogradov <a...@apache.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > +1 to removal in case there is no easy, fast and consistent way > to > > > > > restore > > > > > > setDataMap on node restart. > > > > > > I see that we'll gain some performance drop on size() or keys(), > > but > > > > > these > > > > > > methods are rarely used. > > > > > > > > > > > > пн, 25 июн. 2018 г. в 16:07, Pavel Pereslegin <xxt...@gmail.com > >: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, Igniters. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I tried to implement IgniteSet data recovery when persistence > > > enabled > > > > > > > [1] using trivial cache scanning, however I cannot find optimal > > way > > > > to > > > > > > > do that because of the following reasons: > > > > > > > - Performing operations on IgniteSet requires completion of > data > > > > > > > loading (restoring of setDataMap) on all nodes. Do this during > > > > > > > partition map exchange is too long. > > > > > > > - The prohibition of operations on IgniteSet before the > > completion > > > of > > > > > > > asynchronous cache scanning on all nodes looks rather > > complicated, > > > > > > > because It is necessary to support all situations of unstable > > > > > > > topology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I see one option to fix data loss on node restart - remove > the > > > > > > > entire optimization (setDataMap) and rework the iterator > > > > > > > implementation to perform cache scanning. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-5553 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2018-03-17 8:20 GMT+03:00 Andrey Kuznetsov <stku...@gmail.com > >: > > > > > > > > Thanks, Dmitry. I agree ultimately, DS API uniformity is a > > > weighty > > > > > > > reason. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2018-03-17 3:54 GMT+03:00 Dmitriy Setrakyan < > > > dsetrak...@apache.org > > > > >: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 7:39 AM, Andrey Kuznetsov < > > > > > stku...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Dmitry, your way allows to reuse existing {{Ignite.set()}} > > API > > > > to > > > > > > > create > > > > > > > >> > both set flavors. We can adopt it unless somebody in the > > > > community > > > > > > > >> objects. > > > > > > > >> > Personally, I like {{IgniteCache.asSet()}} approach > proposed > > > by > > > > > > > Vladimir > > > > > > > >> O. > > > > > > > >> > more, since it emphasizes the difference between sets > being > > > > > created, > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > >> > this will require API extension. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Andrey, I am suggesting that Ignite.set(...) in > non-collocated > > > > mode > > > > > > > behaves > > > > > > > >> exactly the same as the proposed IgniteCache.asSet() > method. I > > > do > > > > > not > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > >> the IgniteCache.asSet() API because it is inconsistent with > > > Ignite > > > > > > data > > > > > > > >> structure design. All data structures are provided on Ignite > > API > > > > > > > directly > > > > > > > >> and we should not change that. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> D. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > Andrey Kuznetsov. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
