Agree that initial loading and real-time streaming should be seen as
different use cases.

For the loading part, I would borrow ideas from direct data load IEP [1].
Ignite should assume that no app works with the cluster until it's
preloaded. So, no global locks or things like that. Just fasten a seat belt
and feed data to your nodes.

For the streaming part, I would consider 2 or 3 proposed by Igor.

--
Denis

[1]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/IEP-22%3A+Direct+Data+Load

On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 10:03 AM Seliverstov Igor <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Ivan,
>
> Anyway DataStreamer is the fastest way to deliver data to a data node, the
> question is how to apply it correctly.
>
> I don’t thing we need one more tool, which 90% is the same as DataStreamer.
>
> All we need is just to implement a couple of new stream receivers.
>
> Regards,
> Igor
>
> > 13 июля 2018 г., в 9:56, Павлухин Иван <[email protected]> написал(а):
> >
> > Hi Igniters,
> >
> > I had a look into IgniteDataStreamer. As far as I understand, currently
> it
> > just works incorrectly for MVCC tables. It appears as a blocker for
> > releasing MVCC. The simplest thing is to refuse creating streamer for
> MVCC
> > tables.
> >
> > Next step could be hair splitting of related use cases. For me, initial
> > load and continuous streaming look quite different cases and it is better
> > to keep them separate at least at API level. Perhaps, it is better to
> > separate API basing on user experience. For example, DataStreamer could
> be
> > considered tool without surprises (which means leaving data always
> > consistent, transactions). And let's say BulkLoader is a beast for
> fastest
> > data loading but full of surprises. Such surprises could be locking
> tables,
> > rolling back user transactions and so on. So, it is of very limited use
> > (like initial load). Keeping API entities separate looks better for me
> than
> > introducing multiple modes, because separated entities are easier for
> > understanding and so less prone to user mistakes.
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > Ivan Pavlukhin
>
>

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