Hi Dmitriy,

I agree that person is right in that case, but Alex G. is not only one
person who can complete the issue.

I agree it is not newbie ticket, but this assigned ticket is locked by
assignee (see
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/How+to+Contribute )

My concern is related not to this ticket, but to our process: I've heard
complains from Igniters if someone assigns ticket to person, who are not
going to complete it.

I would appreciate if you find topic where Apache mentor explain it. I
could learn it and can tell other Igniters how it works.

Sincerely,
Dmitriy Pavlov

вт, 31 июл. 2018 г. в 1:33, Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrak...@apache.org>:

> Dmitriy,
>
> I am still struggling to understand which portion of the code of conduct is
> being violated. BTW, this point was raised during the Ignite incubation
> process and the community agreed that it is up to the project community
> itself to decide on the best process here. This is not an Apache matter (I
> am too lazy to look for the thread now).
>
> I have been on this project long enough to have a good understanding who in
> the community has the best knowledge to fix a certain issue. When an issue
> requires strong domain expertise, I will assign a ticket to a certain
> domain expert to ensure that he or she are at least aware of it and try to
> address it. If they cannot, then they can always unassign it.
>
> I also use the table at the bottom of this page to find out domain experts
> on different sections of the project:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/How+to+Contribute
>
> BTW, this ticket in particular is absolutely not a casual newbie ticket and
> can have dire consequences on the project quality if done wrong. Therefore,
> I have picked the best domain expert to implement it or at least to comment
> on it. I will assign it back to AG, unless we decide as a community that it
> is a wrong process.
>
> If you disagree with the process, please do not unassign any ticket
> yourself. Feel free to start a separate discussion and we can have a PMC or
> community decision on it.
>
> D.
>
> On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 3:22 AM, Dmitriy Pavlov <dpavlov....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Dmitriy, Igniters,
> >
> > I would like to ask an assistance from experienced Ignite contributors
> > here. I'm still trying to find clear reference on that.
> >
> > In the same time I beleive that assignment to other person, who probably
> > will not work on issue, confronts at least with Code of conduct
> > http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html This policy is to
> > be
> > followed in spirit as much as in the letter.
> >
> > Assigning issue means no one else in the community can begin working on
> it.
> > Let's suppose contributor would like to complete issue, than he or she
> will
> > have to ask assignee to move issue to unassigned before he or she can
> > start. It is not welcoming and discourage people from contribution.
> >
> > So my proposal is as follows:
> > - to encourage particular contibutor to pay attention let's use
> >  -- direct mention in issue comments (it has almost the same effect:
> email
> > will be sent)
> > --  dev. list and CC to contributor's email
> >
> > - and keep ticket unassigned
> > -- until contributor starts
> > -- or going to start actual implementation.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Dmitriy Pavlov
> >
> > сб, 28 июл. 2018 г. в 15:50, Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrak...@apache.org>:
> >
> > > On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 2:20 AM, Dmitriy Pavlov <dpavlov....@gmail.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Dmitriy,
> > > >
> > > > As far as I know this approach is contlicting with the Apache Way. We
> > > > should be absolutely sure that assignee is agree and going to do this
> > > task.
> > > > But in our case domain expert did not replied to dev list topic.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I do not see any conflict with any Apache rule at all. By assigning a
> > > ticket to someone I am suggesting that as a domain expert it is
> > preferable
> > > that he or she looks at it. If not, these people can un-assign or
> > reassign
> > > the ticket.
> > >
> > > If you believe there is a conflict with some Apache principle, please
> > > provide a link so we could all learn about it.
> > >
> > > To solve lost ticket problem I suggest to use dev. list and bumping
> > up/ping
> > > > messages.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Agree, I do that too.
> > >
> > >
> > > > I hope it makes sense to you. If not, I will do my absolute best to
> > find
> > > > out corresponding ASF policy.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Please do.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > > Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > >
> > > > сб, 28 июл. 2018 г. в 3:28, Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrak...@apache.org
> >:
> > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 3:02 PM, Dmitriy Pavlov <
> > dpavlov....@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Igniters,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would discourage all Igniters from direct assigning issues to
> > > anyone
> > > > > > else. Of cource excepting the case it was directly discussed with
> > > > > asignee.
> > > > > > Any contributor should be able to assign issue to himself.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I left issue unassigned until Alex G would assign it.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Dmitriy, I disagree. If there is a domain expert, then the issue
> > should
> > > > be
> > > > > assigned to him/her whenever possible. If that person is too busy,
> > > he/she
> > > > > could ask someone else for help. This way the tickets will get
> > > attention
> > > > > faster and will get resolved faster.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-9113
> > > > >
> > > > > D.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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