"If more recent WAL records will contain *ALL* updates of the transaction"
-> "More recent WAL records will contain *ALL* updates of the transaction"

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 10:15 PM Vladimir Ozerov <voze...@gridgain.com>
wrote:

> Igor,
>
> Yes, I tried to draw different configurations, and it really seems to
> work, despite of being very hard to proof due to non-inituitive HB edges.
> So let me try to spell the algorithm once again to make sure that we are on
> the same page here.
>
> 1) There are two nodes - primary (P) and backup (B)
> 2) There are three type of events: small transactions which possibly
> increments update counter (ucX), one long active transaction which is split
> into multiple operations (opX), and checkpoints (cpX)
> 3) Every node always has current update counter. When transaction commits
> it may or may not shift this counter further depending on whether there are
> holes behind. But we have a strict rule that it always grow. Higher
> coutners synchrnoizes with smaller. Possible cases:
> ----uc1----uc2----uc3----
> ----uc1--------uc3------- // uc2 missing due to reorder, but is is ok
>
> 4) Operations within a single transaction is always applied sequentially,
> and hence also have HB edge:
> ----op1----op2----op3----
>
> 5) When transaction operation happens, we save in memory current update
> counter available at this moment. I.e. we have a map from transaction ID to
> update counter which was relevant by the time last *completed* operation
> *started*. This is very important thing - we remember the counter when
> operation starts, but update the map only when it finishes. This is needed
> for situation when update counter is bumber in the middle of a long
> operation.
> ----uc1----op1----op2----uc2----uc3----op3----
>             |      |                    |
>            uc1    uc1                  uc3
>
> state: tx1 -> op3 -> uc3
>
> 6) Whenever checkpoint occurs, we save two counters with: "current" and
> "backpointer". The latter is the smallest update counter associated with
> active transactions. If there are no active transactions, current update
> counter is used.
>
> Example 1: no active transactions.
> ----uc1----cp1----
>      ^      |
>      --------
>
> state: cp1 [current=uc1, backpointer=uc1]
>
> Example 2: one active transaction:
>                                  ---------------
>                                  |             |
> ----uc1----op1----uc2----op2----op3----uc3----cp1----
>                    ^             |
>                    --------------
>
> state: tx1 -> op3 -> uc2
>        cp1 [current=uc3, backpointer=uc2]
>
> 7) Historical rebalance:
> 7.1) Demander finds latest checkpoint, get it's backpointer and sends it
> to supplier.
> 7.2) Supplier finds earliest checkpoint where [supplier(current) <=
> demander(backpointer)]
> 7.3) Supplier reads checkpoint backpointer and finds associated WAL
> record. This is where we start.
>
> So in terms of WAL we have: supplier[uc_backpointer <- cp(uc_current <=
> demanter_uc_backpointer)] <- demander[uc_backpointer <- cp(last)]
>
> Now the most important - why it works :-)
> 1) Transaction opeartions are sequential, so at the time of crash nodes
> are *at most one operation ahead *each other
> 2) Demander goes to the past and finds update counter which was current at
> the time of last TX completed operation
> 3) Supplier goes to the closest checkpoint in the past where this update
> counter either doesn't exist or just appeared
> 4) Transaction cannot be committed on supplier at this checkpoint, as it
> would violate UC happens-before rule
> 5) Tranasction may have not started yet on supplier at this point. If more
> recent WAL records will contain *ALL* updates of the transaction
> 6) Transaction may exist on supplier at this checkpoint. Thanks to p.1 we
> must skip at most one operation. Jump back through supplier's checkpoint
> backpointer is guaranteed to do this.
>
> Igor, do we have the same understanding here?
>
> Vladimir.
>
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 2:47 PM Seliverstov Igor <gvvinbl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Ivan,
>>
>> different transactions may be applied in different order on backup nodes.
>> That's why we need an active tx set
>> and some sorting by their update times. The idea is to identify a point in
>> time which starting from we may lost some updates.
>> This point:
>>    1) is the last acknowledged by all backups (including possible further
>> demander) update on timeline;
>>    2) have a specific update counter (aka back-counter) which we going to
>> start iteration from.
>>
>> After additional thinking on, I've identified a rule:
>>
>> There is two fences:
>>   1) update counter (UC) - this means that all updates, with less UC than
>> applied one, was applied on a node, having this UC.
>>   2) update in scope of TX - all updates are applied one by one
>> sequentially, this means that the fact of update guaranties the previous
>> update (statement) was finished on all TX participants.
>>
>> Сombining them, we can say the next:
>>
>> All updates, that was acknowledged at the time the last update of tx,
>> which
>> updated UC, applied, are guaranteed to be presented on a node having such
>> UC
>>
>> We can use this rule to find an iterator start pointer.
>>
>> ср, 28 нояб. 2018 г. в 20:26, Павлухин Иван <vololo...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> > Guys,
>> >
>> > Another one idea. We can introduce additional update counter which is
>> > incremented by MVCC transactions right after executing operation (like
>> > is done for classic transactions). And we can use that counter for
>> > searching needed WAL records. Can it did the trick?
>> >
>> > P.S. Mentally I am trying to separate facilities providing
>> > transactions and durability. And it seems to me that those facilities
>> > are in different dimensions.
>> > ср, 28 нояб. 2018 г. в 16:26, Павлухин Иван <vololo...@gmail.com>:
>> > >
>> > > Sorry, if it was stated that a SINGLE transaction updates are applied
>> > > in a same order on all replicas then I have no questions so far. I
>> > > thought about reordering updates coming from different transactions.
>> > > > I have not got why we can assume that reordering is not possible.
>> What
>> > > have I missed?
>> > > ср, 28 нояб. 2018 г. в 13:26, Павлухин Иван <vololo...@gmail.com>:
>> > > >
>> > > > Hi,
>> > > >
>> > > > Regarding Vladimir's new idea.
>> > > > > We assume that transaction can be represented as a set of
>> > independent operations, which are applied in the same order on both
>> primary
>> > and backup nodes.
>> > > > I have not got why we can assume that reordering is not possible.
>> What
>> > > > have I missed?
>> > > > вт, 27 нояб. 2018 г. в 14:42, Seliverstov Igor <
>> gvvinbl...@gmail.com>:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Vladimir,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I think I got your point,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > It should work if we do the next:
>> > > > > introduce two structures: active list (txs) and candidate list
>> > (updCntr ->
>> > > > > txn pairs)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Track active txs, mapping them to actual update counter at update
>> > time.
>> > > > > On each next update put update counter, associated with previous
>> > update,
>> > > > > into a candidates list possibly overwrite existing value (checking
>> > txn)
>> > > > > On tx finish remove tx from active list only if appropriate update
>> > counter
>> > > > > (associated with finished tx) is applied.
>> > > > > On update counter update set the minimal update counter from the
>> > candidates
>> > > > > list as a back-counter, clear the candidate list and remove an
>> > associated
>> > > > > tx from the active list if present.
>> > > > > Use back-counter instead of actual update counter in demand
>> message.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > вт, 27 нояб. 2018 г. в 12:56, Seliverstov Igor <
>> gvvinbl...@gmail.com
>> > >:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Ivan,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > 1) The list is saved on each checkpoint, wholly (all
>> transactions
>> > in
>> > > > > > active state at checkpoint begin).
>> > > > > > We need whole the list to get oldest transaction because after
>> > > > > > the previous oldest tx finishes, we need to get the following
>> one.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > 2) I guess there is a description of how persistent storage
>> works
>> > and how
>> > > > > > it restores [1]
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Vladimir,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > the whole list of what we going to store on checkpoint
>> (updated):
>> > > > > > 1) Partition counter low watermark (LWM)
>> > > > > > 2) WAL pointer of earliest active transaction write to partition
>> > at the
>> > > > > > time the checkpoint have started
>> > > > > > 3) List of prepared txs with acquired partition counters (which
>> > were
>> > > > > > acquired but not applied yet)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > This way we don't need any additional info in demand message.
>> > Start point
>> > > > > > can be easily determined using stored WAL "back-pointer".
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > [1]
>> > > > > >
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Ignite+Persistent+Store+-+under+the+hood#IgnitePersistentStore-underthehood-LocalRecoveryProcess
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > вт, 27 нояб. 2018 г. в 11:19, Vladimir Ozerov <
>> > voze...@gridgain.com>:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >> Igor,
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> Could you please elaborate - what is the whole set of
>> information
>> > we are
>> > > > > >> going to save at checkpoint time? From what I understand this
>> > should be:
>> > > > > >> 1) List of active transactions with WAL pointers of their first
>> > writes
>> > > > > >> 2) List of prepared transactions with their update counters
>> > > > > >> 3) Partition counter low watermark (LWM) - the smallest
>> partition
>> > counter
>> > > > > >> before which there are no prepared transactions.
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> And the we send to supplier node a message: "Give me all
>> updates
>> > starting
>> > > > > >> from that LWM plus data for that transactions which were active
>> > when I
>> > > > > >> failed".
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> Am I right?
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 11:22 AM Seliverstov Igor <
>> > gvvinbl...@gmail.com>
>> > > > > >> wrote:
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> > Hi Igniters,
>> > > > > >> >
>> > > > > >> > Currently I’m working on possible approaches how to implement
>> > historical
>> > > > > >> > rebalance (delta rebalance using WAL iterator) over MVCC
>> caches.
>> > > > > >> >
>> > > > > >> > The main difficulty is that MVCC writes changes on tx active
>> > phase while
>> > > > > >> > partition update version, aka update counter, is being
>> applied
>> > on tx
>> > > > > >> > finish. This means we cannot start iteration over WAL right
>> > from the
>> > > > > >> > pointer where the update counter updated, but should include
>> > updates,
>> > > > > >> which
>> > > > > >> > the transaction that updated the counter did.
>> > > > > >> >
>> > > > > >> > These updates may be much earlier than the point where the
>> > update
>> > > > > >> counter
>> > > > > >> > was updated, so we have to be able to identify the point
>> where
>> > the first
>> > > > > >> > update happened.
>> > > > > >> >
>> > > > > >> > The proposed approach includes:
>> > > > > >> >
>> > > > > >> > 1) preserve list of active txs, sorted by the time of their
>> > first update
>> > > > > >> > (using WAL ptr of first WAL record in tx)
>> > > > > >> >
>> > > > > >> > 2) persist this list on each checkpoint (together with TxLog
>> for
>> > > > > >> example)
>> > > > > >> >
>> > > > > >> > 4) send whole active tx list (transactions which were in
>> active
>> > state at
>> > > > > >> > the time the node was crushed, empty list in case of graceful
>> > node
>> > > > > >> stop) as
>> > > > > >> > a part of partition demand message.
>> > > > > >> >
>> > > > > >> > 4) find a checkpoint where the earliest tx exists in
>> persisted
>> > txs and
>> > > > > >> use
>> > > > > >> > saved WAL ptr as a start point or apply current approach in
>> > case the
>> > > > > >> active
>> > > > > >> > tx list (sent on previous step) is empty
>> > > > > >> >
>> > > > > >> > 5) start iteration.
>> > > > > >> >
>> > > > > >> > Your thoughts?
>> > > > > >> >
>> > > > > >> > Regards,
>> > > > > >> > Igor
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Best regards,
>> > > > Ivan Pavlukhin
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Best regards,
>> > > Ivan Pavlukhin
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Best regards,
>> > Ivan Pavlukhin
>> >
>>
>

Reply via email to