Pavel,

I still have no info related to starting version of .NET encryption
> support. So I supposed it was 1.5.


Could you please help with this last open item?

Dmitry, thanks for the final summary. I'll contact ASF folks trying to find
the ASF website dev instructions.


--
Denis Magda


On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 11:35 AM Dmitriy Pavlov <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Denis,
>
> I still have no info related to starting version of .NET encryption
> support. So I supposed it was 1.5.
>
> I've started both XSTLs and added an example of both XLTs output to google
> doc tabs. One transformer is for email template generation (requires
> project name), another is for the site table.
>
> Only one TODO now left in the PR version of the update. All other stuff is
> ready for publishing:
>
> https://github.com/apache/ignite/pull/6616/files#diff-1995c8a78832996cb48db91f7550479cR8
>
> Sincerely,
> Dmitriy Pavlov
>
> P.S. I'm not sure that dev. the list will keep formatting, but anyway here
> is transformer output example as text.
>
> Apache Ignite Project
> Product Name Versions ECCN
> Controlled Source
> Apache Ignite development 5D002
> ASF, Oracle, The OpenSSL Project, Microsoft, .NET Foundation, JCraft, Inc.,
> The Eclipse Foundation
> 2.5.0 - latest 5D002
> ASF, Oracle, The OpenSSL Project, Microsoft, .NET Foundation, JCraft, Inc.,
> The Eclipse Foundation
> 1.5.0.final - 2.4.0 5D002
> ASF, Oracle, Microsoft, .NET Foundation, JCraft, Inc., The Eclipse
> Foundation
> 1.0.0 - 1.5.0-b1 5D002
> ASF, Oracle, JCraft, Inc., The Eclipse Foundation
>
> ср, 19 июн. 2019 г. в 15:05, Dmitriy Pavlov <[email protected]>:
>
> > Igniters,
> >
> > as for older versions, I've started to collect information of crypto
> > providers usages in older versions, please help me to finalize this doc
> so
> > I could prepare a declaration of older versions.
> >
> >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1s15HnsE40hHl0QN2aX0hJ3atw9_LO19_mzhgM96rcbo/edit?usp=sharing
> >
> > I'm not sure if the time of Incubation counts, but, anyway, let' collect
> > information about the history of modules.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Dmitriy Pavlov
> >
> > ср, 19 июн. 2019 г. в 14:05, Dmitriy Pavlov <[email protected]>:
> >
> >> Hi Denis,
> >>
> >> Build process seems to be mentioned only here
> >> https://www.apache.org/dev/crypto.html#sources It also mentions some
> >> bisnotice XSLT transformation, which is available at SVN here
> >>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/infrastructure/site/trunk/content/licenses/exports/
> >>
> >> For XML I'm preparing at PR6616 it seems that eccnmatrix.xsl from
> >>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/infrastructure/site/trunk/content/licenses/exports/index.page/
> >> is more appropriate. I will test it locally.
> >>
> >> The only thing I've found for now is the following scripts at the root
> of
> >> SVN here https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/infrastructure/site/trunk/
> >> bisnotice.cmd
> >> bisnotice.sh
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >> Dmitriy Pavlov
> >>
> >> ср, 19 июн. 2019 г. в 01:40, Denis Magda <[email protected]>:
> >>
> >>> Dmitriy,
> >>>
> >>> I think that it's required to enlist all of the publicly released
> Ignite
> >>> versions (available for download from the website). It means that the
> XML
> >>> should have the following controlled sources grouped by Ignite
> versions'
> >>> ranges.
> >>>
> >>>    - Ignite 1.0.0 - Ignite 1.5.0-b1: ASF, Oracle, The Eclipse
> Foundation
> >>>    - Ignite 1.5.0 and later: all of the controller versions listed by
> >>> you.
> >>>
> >>> Not sure about JCraft only. What was the first Ignite version the lib
> was
> >>> added to?
> >>>
> >>> As for .NET versions declarations, I'm for the way it handled right now
> >>> by
> >>> you. Btw, do you know where ASF explains the website build process?
> >>> Failed
> >>> to find it, it's not enough just to update the XML.
> >>>
> >>> Finally, looping in Garrett who can help with the editorial review.
> >>> Garrett, could you please review README.txt from this pull-request?
> >>>
> >>>
> https://github.com/apache/ignite/pull/6616/files#diff-26fd799ea07494916e9da9b91b2aac64R29
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -
> >>> Denis
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 5:06 AM Dmitriy Pavlov <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Igniters,
> >>> >
> >>> > please review crypto notice in
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> https://github.com/apache/ignite/pull/6616/files#diff-26fd799ea07494916e9da9b91b2aac64R29
> >>> >
> >>> > Only 2 open questions: about declaring released versions, and about
> >>> > declaring .NET versions (.NET Core & . NET Classic). By default, I
> >>> propose
> >>> > to keep both.
> >>> >
> >>> > Sincerely,
> >>> > Dmitriy Pavlov
> >>> >
> >>> > пн, 17 июн. 2019 г. в 19:24, Dmitriy Pavlov <[email protected]>:
> >>> >
> >>> > > Pavel,
> >>> > >
> >>> > > we need to follow the process from
> >>> > > https://www.apache.org/dev/crypto.html#classify
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Please see similar products in the draft export matrix,
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>>
> https://github.com/apache/ignite/pull/6616/files#diff-1995c8a78832996cb48db91f7550479cR7
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > We don't ship JDK, but we designed our product to use a
> cryptographic
> >>> > > feature from this 3rd party product, so we need to follow this
> >>> process
> >>> > and
> >>> > > provide matrix update, add CRYPTO notice (I'll draft it).
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Other products don't declare all possible JDKs -
> >>> > > http://www.apache.org/licenses/exports/#matrix So, probably, one
> >>> > > declaration of .NET classic (Microsoft) would be enough.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Sincerely,
> >>> > > Dmitriy Pavlov
> >>> > >
> >>> > > пн, 17 июн. 2019 г. в 19:11, Pavel Tupitsyn <[email protected]
> >:
> >>> > >
> >>> > >> >>Should it go instead of Microsoft? Should we mention .NET code
> in
> >>> > >> addition
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> >>to Microsoft?
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> >Yes, I think we can do this. Ignite targets both of the them. And
> >>> .NET
> >>> > >> Core uses it’s own implementation of standard class library[1]
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> >Pavel may correct me.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> We use crypto APIs from standard class library. We ship our
> >>> binaries,
> >>> > but
> >>> > >> we don't ship the framework binaries.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Our binaries can be executed with .NET Core (open-source, MIT
> >>> license),
> >>> > >> Mono (open-source, MIT license), and .NET Classic (old framework,
> >>> > >> Windows-only, Microsoft license).
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> I'm still not sure what is the question we are trying to answer,
> >>> though.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Thanks,
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Pavel
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 5:20 PM Alexandr Shapkin <
> [email protected]
> >>> >
> >>> > >> wrote:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> > >1) Declaring older versions of Ignite.
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > >2) Is it correct to mention that Ignite uses .NET core
> >>> controlled by
> >>> > >> .NET
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > >Foundation? E.g. as follows:
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > >(controlled by)
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > >.NET Foundation
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > >title=Designed to use .NET Framework Cryptography Model
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > >href=https://dotnetfoundation.org/projects
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > >Should it go instead of Microsoft? Should we mention .NET code
> in
> >>> > >> addition
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > >to Microsoft?
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Yes, I think we can do this. Ignite targets both of the them.
> And
> >>> .NET
> >>> > >> > Core uses it’s own implementation of standard class library[1]
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Pavel may correct me.
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > [1] https://github.com/dotnet/corefx
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > *From: *Dmitriy Pavlov <[email protected]>
> >>> > >> > *Sent: *Monday, June 17, 2019 4:35 PM
> >>> > >> > *To: *dev <[email protected]>
> >>> > >> > *Cc: *Denis Magda <[email protected]>; Igor Sapego <
> >>> > [email protected]>;
> >>> > >> Pavel
> >>> > >> > Petroshenko <[email protected]>; Nikolay Izhikov <
> >>> [email protected]>
> >>> > >> > *Subject: *Re: Signing off Ignite for export beyond the U.S.
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Thanks, Pavel!
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Denis, Pavel, Igniters, please review the following proposal:
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > - Python, Node JS, ODBC to be declared as OpenSSL usage.
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > - AWS-S3 client-side encryption to be declared as JCA/JCE usage.
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > - SSLContextFactory usage to be declared as JCA/JCE usage.
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > - TDE to be declared as JCA/JCE
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Export matrix data to be published in ASF-level SVN:
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > <<<<<
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Product Name
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Apache Ignite
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Versions
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > development
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > 2.7 and later <Earlier versions-TBD?>
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > ECCN
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > 5D002
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Controlled source
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > ASF
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > title=Designed to use with built-in Java Cryptography
> Architecture
> >>> > (JCA)
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > href=https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=ignite.git
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Oracle
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > title=Designed to use with built-in Java encryption libraries
> >>> (JCE)
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > href=
> >>> > >>
> https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > The OpenSSL Project
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > title=Designed to use General Purpose cryptography library
> >>> included
> >>> > with
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > OpenSSL
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > href=https://www.openssl.org/source/
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Microsoft
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > title=Designed to use .NET Framework Cryptography Model
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > href=https://dotnet.microsoft.com/download
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Open questions:
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > 1) Declaring older versions of Ignite.
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > 2) Is it correct to mention that Ignite uses .NET core
> controlled
> >>> by
> >>> > >> .NET
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Foundation? E.g. as follows:
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > (controlled by)
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > .NET Foundation
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > title=Designed to use .NET Framework Cryptography Model
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > href=https://dotnetfoundation.org/projects
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Should it go instead of Microsoft? Should we mention .NET code
> in
> >>> > >> addition
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > to Microsoft?
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Sincerely,
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Dmitriy Pavlov
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > пн, 17 июн. 2019 г. в 16:07, Pavel Tupitsyn <
> [email protected]
> >>> >:
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > Hi Denis,
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > Ignite.NET uses .NET Framework Standard Library for all
> >>> security and
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > cryptographic related code. There are no dependencies on
> >>> external
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > libraries.
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > Thanks
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > ср, 12 июн. 2019 г., 21:07 Denis Magda <[email protected]>:
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > > Igniters,
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > > Regardless of the fact that Ignite is an open source
> >>> software, ASF
> >>> > >> as
> >>> > >> > an
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > > entity based in the U.S. has to comply with certain
> exporting
> >>> > >> > regulations
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > > [1].
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > > Dmitry Pavlov and I are working on adding Ignite to the
> table
> >>> [2]
> >>> > of
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > > projects allowed for export and might need the assistance of
> >>> some
> >>> > of
> >>> > >> > you.
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > > Here is a list of cryptographic functions used by Ignite
> (and
> >>> > >> provided
> >>> > >> > by
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > > a 3rd party vendor):
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > >    1. JDK SSL/TLS libraries if a user wishes to enable
> secured
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > >    connectivity between cluster nodes. Manufacturer -
> >>> > >> Oracle/OpenJDK (
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > >    https://apacheignite.readme.io/docs/ssltls)
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > >    2. JDK AES/CBC/PKCS5Padding encryption from the Java
> >>> libraries
> >>> > >> for
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > >    transparent data encryption of data on disk (
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > >
> >>> > https://apacheignite.readme.io/docs/transparent-data-encryption)
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > >    3. Libraries/vendors for .NET nodes security?* Pavel
> >>> Tupitsyn*,
> >>> > >> > could
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > >    you check?
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > >    4. Libraries/vendors for C++ clients security (SSL, TLS,
> >>> > anything
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > >    else?). *Igor Sapego*, could you please check?
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > >    5. Libraries/vendors for Python, PHP, Node.JS SSL/TLS?
> >>> *Dear
> >>> > thin
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > >    client contributors*, please facilitate.
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > >    6. Anything else missing from the list? We don't have any
> >>> > custom
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > >    crypto features, right?
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > > All of these usages/integrations have to comply with the
> >>> following
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > > checklist [3] before I, as a PMC Chair, submit a notice to
> >>> Export
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > > Administration Regulations of the U.S.A.
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > > [1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/exports/
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > > [2] http://www.apache.org/licenses/exports/#matrix
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > > [3] https://www.apache.org/dev/crypto.html#classify
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > > -
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > > Denis
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > > >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>
>

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