Folks,

I've published the blog post:
https://blogs.apache.org/ignite/entry/ignite-2-8-released-less

@Maxim Muzafarov <mmu...@apache.org>, please proceed with an announcement
email including a reference to the blog for those who'd like to find out
details.

-
Denis


On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:17 AM Anton Vinogradov <a...@apache.org> wrote:

> >> Does it mean that the PME is skipped only for cases when the native
> >> persistence is used and a failed node was in the baseline topology?
> The cluster should be fully rebalanced (late affinity assignment happened)
> and the failed node should be from the baseline topology.
> Otherwise, you'll gain regular (PME based) switch.
>
> >> How about pure in-memory clusters and clusters with CacheStore?
> Such configuration leads to partitions reassignment in case of node left.
> This means we have to relocate primaries and backups once they will be
> rebalanced.
> This leads to subsequent LAA PME (after Left switch).
> Initial PME is required to calculate and apply new affinity and perform
> preparations for LAA.
>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 7:25 PM Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Anton,
> >
> > Does it mean that the PME is skipped only for cases when the native
> > persistence is used and a failed node was in the baseline topology? How
> > about pure in-memory clusters and clusters with CacheStore?
> >
> > -
> > Denis
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 12:40 AM Anton Vinogradov <a...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Denis,
> > >
> > > >> the blocking PME no longer happens if a node leaves the cluster
> > > We should mention this should be the baseline node
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 9:40 AM Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Pavel, thank you. I referred to your article from a blog post to be
> > > > published on blogs.apache.org. Please feel free to share feedback
> > before
> > > > it's published. You can use the comment feature of Google Docs:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ssTC1Jf_reqZFWgl4ayhaohiAJCpzdL4tPrHTxvfvAM/edit?usp=sharing
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > @Alexey Zinoviev <zaleslaw....@gmail.com> , @Andrey Gura
> > > > <ag...@apache.org> , @Nikolay Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org>, @Anton
> > > > Vinogradov <a...@apache.org>  could you glance at the paragraphs
> > > mentioning
> > > > the improvements you contributed to the release? I just want to be
> sure
> > > my
> > > > understanding is correct.
> > > >
> > > > -
> > > > Denis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 3:54 AM Pavel Tupitsyn <ptupit...@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Published: https://ptupitsyn.github.io/Whats-New-In-Ignite-Net-2.8/
> > > >>
> > > >> On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 1:49 AM Pavel Tupitsyn <ptupit...@apache.org
> >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Denis, ok, I'll publish on Monday afternoon then (UTC), weekend is
> > not
> > > >> the
> > > >> > best time.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Thanks,
> > > >> > Pavel
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 1:25 AM Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Pavel,
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Thanks for clarifying the way partition-awareness handles
> topology
> > > >> >> changes.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Please publish your article as soon as you're ready. I plan to
> > finish
> > > >> mine
> > > >> >> on Monday-Tuesday and will refer to yours.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> -
> > > >> >> Denis
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 1:36 AM Pavel Tupitsyn <
> > ptupit...@apache.org>
> > > >> >> wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > Denis, thanks for the feedback!
> > > >> >> > When should I publish the post? Right after official release
> > > >> >> announcement,
> > > >> >> > or later?
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > > I would use "thick client" as a term instead of the "classic
> > > >> client"
> > > >> >> > Good point, fixed
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > > partition-awareness doesn't handle topology changes
> > automatically
> > > >> >> > (partition map won't be updated on the client-side)
> > > >> >> > This is not true, we keep the partition map up to date by
> > checking
> > > >> >> > AffinityTopologyVersion [1]
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > > Now I can run Ignite.NET easily on my Mac OS machine
> > > >> >> > Just to clarify, you can do that since 2.4 release [2].
> > > >> >> > In 2.8 we have refined build-related things (jar file
> handling),
> > > and
> > > >> >> made
> > > >> >> > sure that recent .NET versions are supported.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > [1]
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/IEP-23%3A+Best+Effort+Affinity+for+thin+clients
> > > >> >> > [2] https://habr.com/ru/company/gridgain/blog/347374/ (in
> > Russian)
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 2:40 AM Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > > Pavel, thanks,
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > I enjoyed reading the blog, crystal clear and straight to the
> > > >> point!
> > > >> >> > Please
> > > >> >> > > consider these several items that might strengthen the
> article
> > a
> > > >> bit:
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > >    - I would use "thick client" as a term instead of the
> > "classic
> > > >> >> client"
> > > >> >> > >    (and mention that Ignite.NET client is a thick one). The
> > thick
> > > >> >> client
> > > >> >> > is
> > > >> >> > >    already a coined term that based on my observations are
> > used a
> > > >> lot
> > > >> >> by
> > > >> >> > > dev
> > > >> >> > >    and user communities. Also, you might add some differences
> > of
> > > >> thick
> > > >> >> > vs.
> > > >> >> > >    thin taking from this page -
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://www.gridgain.com/docs/latest/installation-guide/deployment-modes#thick-vs-thin-clients
> > > >> >> > >    - Should we mention that presently partition-awareness
> > doesn't
> > > >> >> handle
> > > >> >> > >    topology changes automatically (partition map won't be
> > updated
> > > >> on
> > > >> >> the
> > > >> >> > >    client-side)? This might be a blocker for some users.
> > > >> >> > >    - Excited to read about the cross-platform support, that's
> > > huge!
> > > >> >> Now I
> > > >> >> > >    can run Ignite.NET easily on my Mac OS machine. I would
> > > insert a
> > > >> >> > > reference
> > > >> >> > >    to updated documentation pages that explain how to start
> > with
> > > >> >> > > Ignite.NET on
> > > >> >> > >    various platforms.
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > Hope, you will find this helpful, thanks for helping with
> > project
> > > >> >> > > promotion!
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > -
> > > >> >> > > Denis
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 7:32 AM Pavel Tupitsyn <
> > > >> ptupit...@apache.org>
> > > >> >> > > wrote:
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > > Denis,
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > > The first post is going to be ready soon, probably by
> > tomorrow.
> > > >> >> > > > Here is a draft, feedback welcome:
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/ptupitsyn/ptupitsyn.github.io/blob/ignite-2.8/_posts/2020-03-05-Whats-New-In-Ignite-Net-2.8.md
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 5:15 PM Denis Magda <
> > dma...@apache.org>
> > > >> >> wrote:
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > Hi Pavel,
> > > >> >> > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > Excellent! It will be good to publish the first article
> > > (what's
> > > >> >> new
> > > >> >> > in
> > > >> >> > > > > Ignite.NET 2.8) prior to a generic blog on
> > blogs.apache.org
> > > so
> > > >> >> that
> > > >> >> > we
> > > >> >> > > > can
> > > >> >> > > > > link your post in for those who are looking for more
> > details.
> > > >> Do
> > > >> >> you
> > > >> >> > > have
> > > >> >> > > > > any timeline in mind for this article?
> > > >> >> > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > @Alexey Zinoviev <zaleslaw....@gmail.com>, how about you
> > > >> >> preparing
> > > >> >> > > > several
> > > >> >> > > > > paragraphs for the blog highlighting the biggest changes
> in
> > > ML?
> > > >> >> The
> > > >> >> > > same
> > > >> >> > > > > highlighted content will be elaborated during the
> webinar.
> > > >> >> > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > -
> > > >> >> > > > > Denis
> > > >> >> > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 2:29 AM Pavel Tupitsyn <
> > > >> >> ptupit...@apache.org>
> > > >> >> > > > > wrote:
> > > >> >> > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > Denis, I have a few blog posts on Ignite.NET planned:
> > > >> >> > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > * What's new in Ignite.NET 2.8 (Thin Client Partition
> > > >> Awareness,
> > > >> >> > > > logging,
> > > >> >> > > > > > expiry policy, cluster API, .NET Core 3.x, Dockerfile)
> > > >> >> > > > > > * Ignite.NET performance improvements on .NET Core 3.x
> > > >> >> > > > > > * Ignite.NET Partition Awareness performance
> > > >> >> > > > > > * Fixing JNI thread leak in Ignite.NET
> > > >> >> > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > What do you think? Should we have a schedule of some
> > sorts?
> > > >> >> > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 9:58 PM Alexey Zinoviev <
> > > >> >> > > zaleslaw....@gmail.com
> > > >> >> > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > wrote:
> > > >> >> > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > > Sounds ineresting, will help with the post, please
> > share
> > > >> the
> > > >> >> > > > template,
> > > >> >> > > > > > not
> > > >> >> > > > > > > sure about webinar
> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > > вт, 3 мар. 2020 г., 20:59 Denis Magda <
> > dma...@apache.org
> > > >:
> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > Igniters,
> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > Let's discuss approaches for a global
> > > >> >> announcement/promotion of
> > > >> >> > > the
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > release. I would suggest focusing on a blog post
> and
> > a
> > > >> >> > community
> > > >> >> > > > > > webinar.
> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > The blog post will introduce significant
> improvements
> > > >> >> (service
> > > >> >> > > > grid,
> > > >> >> > > > > > thin
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > clients, new metrics system, ML, etc.) sharing
> > > >> references to
> > > >> >> > > > > > > documentation
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > pages with more details.  It will be published on
> > > >> >> > > blogs.apache.org
> > > >> >> > > > > in
> > > >> >> > > > > > a
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > format similar to this one -
> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> >> https://blogs.apache.org/ignite/entry/apache-ignite-2-7-deep.
> > > >> >> > I
> > > >> >> > > > can
> > > >> >> > > > > > work
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > on
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > it unless anybody else is willing to share the news
> > on
> > > >> >> behalf
> > > >> >> > of
> > > >> >> > > > the
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > community.
> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > Next, the blog post will be featuring a community
> > > webinar
> > > >> >> that
> > > >> >> > is
> > > >> >> > > > > > > breaking
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > down a subset of the improvements in more detail.
> > > Please
> > > >> >> see an
> > > >> >> > > > > > abstract
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > below with suggested topics for a detailed
> overview.
> > > >> @Alexey
> > > >> >> > > > Zinoviev
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > <zaleslaw....@gmail.com>, would you be able to
> > present
> > > >> the
> > > >> >> ML
> > > >> >> > > > part?
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > @Nikolay
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org> or @Andrey Gura <
> > > >> >> > > ag...@gridgain.com>
> > > >> >> > > > > > would
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > you like to take over the metrics section? I'll
> work
> > > the
> > > >> >> > > attendees
> > > >> >> > > > > > > through
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > the items listed in "Sustainable production under
> > high
> > > >> >> load".
> > > >> >> > We
> > > >> >> > > > > should
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > target the webinar for the April timeframe.
> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > *Topmost changes in Apache Ignite 2.8 for
> production
> > > >> >> > maintenance
> > > >> >> > > > and
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > machine learning*
> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > *Apache Ignite community rolled out more than 1900
> > > >> changes
> > > >> >> in
> > > >> >> > > > Ignite
> > > >> >> > > > > > 2.8
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > that enhanced almost all the components of the
> > > platform.
> > > >> The
> > > >> >> > > > release
> > > >> >> > > > > > > notes
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > go with hundreds of lines trying to catalog the
> > > >> >> improvements.
> > > >> >> > > Join
> > > >> >> > > > > this
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > webinar led by Ignite community members
> demonstrating
> > > and
> > > >> >> > > > dissecting
> > > >> >> > > > > > new
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > capabilities related to production maintenance,
> > > >> monitoring,
> > > >> >> and
> > > >> >> > > > > machine
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > learning that you do not want to lose sight of:*
> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > > >    - *Sustainable production under high load:
> Ignite
> > > >> >> > persistence
> > > >> >> > > > > > > compaction
> > > >> >> > > > > > > >    and consistent crash recovery, baseline topology
> > > >> >> > > > auto-adjustment,
> > > >> >> > > > > no
> > > >> >> > > > > > > >    interruption of operations for some cluster
> > topology
> > > >> >> change
> > > >> >> > > > > events.*
> > > >> >> > > > > > > >    - *Next-generation system for monitoring and
> code
> > > >> >> tracing:
> > > >> >> > > > design
> > > >> >> > > > > > and
> > > >> >> > > > > > > >    usage, exporters configuration (JMX, SQL,
> > > OpenCensus)
> > > >> *
> > > >> >> > > > > > > >    - *Ignite Machine Learning major upgrade: a
> > revised
> > > >> >> approach
> > > >> >> > > for
> > > >> >> > > > > > > models
> > > >> >> > > > > > > >    training/evaluation, models importing from Spark
> > ML,
> > > >> >> XGBoost
> > > >> >> > > and
> > > >> >> > > > > > much
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > more
> > > >> >> > > > > > > >      *
> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > -
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > Denis
> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > >
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> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
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