Hi Raymond,

Do you think you could use services for your use case?
https://apacheignite.readme.io/docs/service-grid

-Val

On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 4:32 PM Raymond Wilson <raymond_wil...@trimble.com>
wrote:

> For what it is worth, we use messaging in Ignite to provide grid
> notifications for various purposes. These might stimulate compute
> operations in the message recipients, but they don't represent compute.
>
> If messaging is removed, how would Ignite provide the ability for a node to
> listen to events without the event sender being explicitly aware that the
> listener does, or should, exist, to produce a compute projection to send
> messages-as-compute-requests to?
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 9:28 AM Kseniya Romanova <
> romanova.ks....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Just wanted to submit a link to the video about some offered changes.
> > @valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com <valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com>  please
> add
> > it to the wiki page. I created timestamps in the description, so one can
> > browse the presentation fast or link the particular section:
> > https://youtu.be/zPuLJgUfLaM
> > Thanks a lot for the presentation!
> >
> > вт, 18 авг. 2020 г. в 14:13, Ilya Kasnacheev <ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com
> >:
> >
> > > Hello!
> > >
> > > Maybe we can implement messaging via compute? Share underlying code but
> > > have a different API for convenience (maybe in extras).
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > --
> > > Ilya Kasnacheev
> > >
> > >
> > > вт, 18 авг. 2020 г. в 11:59, Pavel Tupitsyn <ptupit...@apache.org>:
> > >
> > > > Val,
> > > >
> > > > > Is see the ".NET Modernization for Ignite 3.0" item in the roadmap,
> > but
> > > > it
> > > > > doesn't provide much detail. What are the actual changes in .NET
> that
> > > you
> > > > > propose for 3.0?
> > > >
> > > > I've updated the roadmap with a brief description.
> > > > We want to move away from an old, long unsupported .NET version,
> > > > and remove integrations with legacy technologies (old ASP.NET and
> EF).
> > > >
> > > > > As for the messaging, so far I haven't seen use cases that would
> > > require
> > > > > this API. Sometimes users attempt to use it for remote code
> > invocation,
> > > > but
> > > > > compute is usually a better option for this. Do you have any
> examples
> > > > where
> > > > > messaging is a better fit then compute?
> > > >
> > > > I guess you are right, Compute can replace Messaging in most
> scenarios.
> > > >
> > > > Messaging can be more convenient, since it is pub-sub - subscriber
> > > controls
> > > > whether it receives messages on the given topic. But this can be
> > achieved
> > > > with a little more work with Compute as well.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Pavel
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 3:16 AM Saikat Maitra <
> saikat.mai...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Pavel,
> > > > >
> > > > > Awesome, thank you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, I remember having .Net modernization as part of Apache Ignite
> > 3.0
> > > > > roadmap.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Saikat
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 11:04 AM Pavel Tupitsyn <
> > ptupit...@apache.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Saikat, yes, most definitely.
> > > > > > This is mentioned in the wishlist under ".NET: Target .NET
> Standard
> > > > 2.0,
> > > > > > discontinue .NET 4.0 support".
> > > > > > I'm already working towards this goal by making more code and
> tests
> > > > work
> > > > > > properly under .NET Core,
> > > > > > so when the time for breaking changes comes, it will be simpler.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 10:06 PM Saikat Maitra <
> > > > saikat.mai...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Val,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you for adding the Cleanup section and Removals list.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Pavel, As part of Apache Ignite Roadmap we had mentioned we
> will
> > > add
> > > > > > > modernization of .NET. Are we still targeting it in Apache
> Ignite
> > > 3.0
> > > > > > > release?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+Roadmap
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > Saikat
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 10:04 AM Carbone, Adam <
> > > > > > > adam.carb...@bottomline.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If you want to make is simpler to have the components that
> you
> > > > want,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > have that be immutable at install time you could take an
> > approach
> > > > > > similar
> > > > > > > > to the way spring does it with their initializer (
> > > > > > > > https://start.spring.io/ )  as an example... Basically the
> > > concept
> > > > > > being
> > > > > > > > something that produces a set of configurations that are used
> > to
> > > > > define
> > > > > > > > what the environment looks like ( these could be k8s objects
> )
> > > they
> > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > be spring-configuration objects? They could be something that
> > you
> > > > > > develop
> > > > > > > > all upon ignite ( probably wouldn’t recommend this approach )
> > > > there
> > > > > > > seems
> > > > > > > > to be plenty of these types of things already
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Example
> > > > > > > > * https://spring.io/guides/gs/centralized-configuration
> > > > > > > > *
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cocoon.apache.org/subprojects/configuration/spring-configurator/index.html
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > And I'm by no means saying to use spring these are just
> > examples
> > > > > that I
> > > > > > > > came across
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm thinking the outcome needs to be a platform config of
> > source
> > > (
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > > can be checked in for those doing gitops ) and maybe ends up
> > as a
> > > > > > config
> > > > > > > > map for those doing k8s, and some other fashion for those
> doing
> > > > > > something
> > > > > > > > else.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Honestly I am not deep enough into the internals of ignite to
> > > know
> > > > > how
> > > > > > > > this might work for the platform, was more describing what
> I'm
> > > > seeing
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > a bigger picture trend
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Adam Carbone | Director of Innovation – Intelligent Platform
> > > Team |
> > > > > > > > Bottomline Technologies
> > > > > > > > Office: 603-501-6446 | Mobile: 603-570-8418
> > > > > > > > www.bottomline.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 8/13/20, 7:55 PM, "Valentin Kulichenko" <
> > > > > > > valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     Hi Ilya,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     Can you please describe your vision of how it should
> work?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     Let's say, I want to set up a cluster of several
> standalone
> > > > > server
> > > > > > > > nodes
> > > > > > > >     with a couple of optional modules enabled. What are my
> > steps?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     -Val
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 6:03 AM Carbone, Adam <
> > > > > > > > adam.carb...@bottomline.com>
> > > > > > > >     wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     > Good Morning from the EastCoast
> > > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > > >     > I have to agree that the larger industry is tending
> > towards
> > > > > > > > immutability,
> > > > > > > >     > and that you build once and test, then you
> > promote/migrate
> > > > that
> > > > > > > > immutable
> > > > > > > >     > binary object, be is a library or a docker image etc...
> > > > however
> > > > > > > > there are
> > > > > > > >     > still patterns that allow you to determine at
> install/or
> > > > > > deployment
> > > > > > > > time (
> > > > > > > >     > helm as an example, you choose based on your values
> what
> > > the
> > > > > > > package
> > > > > > > >     > installs/provides ) It just isn't decided at runtime
> but
> > > > > install
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > often
> > > > > > > >     > in a gitops type world that is determined by
> > configuration
> > > as
> > > > > > code.
> > > > > > > > I think
> > > > > > > >     > run time is difficult to manage especially in our
> > > > increasingly
> > > > > > > >     > containerized world.
> > > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > > >     > Regards.
> > > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > > >     > Adam Carbone | Director of Innovation – Intelligent
> > > Platform
> > > > > > Team |
> > > > > > > >     > Bottomline Technologies
> > > > > > > >     > Office: 603-501-6446 | Mobile: 603-570-8418
> > > > > > > >     > www.bottomline.com
> > > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > > >     > On 8/13/20, 8:01 AM, "Ilya Kasnacheev" <
> > > > > > ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > > >     >     Hello!
> > > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > > >     >     On the contrary, I would suggest that apache2 way
> was
> > > > > > outdated
> > > > > > > > even at
> > > > > > > >     >     times when apache was all rage.
> > > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > > >     >     Now the nginx approach is prevalent: on devops
> phase,
> > > > > > assemble
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > custom
> > > > > > > >     >     bundle with all plugins included, store it
> somewhere,
> > > and
> > > > > > ship
> > > > > > > > it to
> > > > > > > >     >     production as a whole to remove any on-the-fly
> > > > uncertainty
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > >     > production.
> > > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > > >     >     This is what docker does, but also maven, which
> > > downloads
> > > > > > > > dependencies
> > > > > > > >     >     during build. You do not need to download anything
> in
> > > > > > runtime,
> > > > > > > > except
> > > > > > > >     > for
> > > > > > > >     >     experimental deployments. You need to be all set
> > before
> > > > > > runtime
> > > > > > > > starts.
> > > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > > >     >     Regards,
> > > > > > > >     >     --
> > > > > > > >     >     Ilya Kasnacheev
> > > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > > >     >     ср, 12 авг. 2020 г. в 09:48, Petr Ivanov <
> > > > > > mr.wei...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >:
> > > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > > >     >     > Hi, Val.
> > > > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > > > >     >     > > On 12 Aug 2020, at 01:31, Valentin Kulichenko <
> > > > > > > >     >     > valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >     >     > >
> > > > > > > >     >     > > Hi Petr,
> > > > > > > >     >     > >
> > > > > > > >     >     > > I agree -- we should better modularize the
> > > platform.
> > > > > The
> > > > > > > > current
> > > > > > > >     > way if
> > > > > > > >     >     > very error-prone, especially during upgrades --
> any
> > > > > changes
> > > > > > > > made
> > > > > > > >     > within
> > > > > > > >     >     > IGNITE_HOME (configs, scripts, modules, etc.)
> must
> > be
> > > > > > merged
> > > > > > > > with a
> > > > > > > >     > new
> > > > > > > >     >     > version of the package. There is no standard way
> of
> > > > doing
> > > > > > > this.
> > > > > > > >     >     > >
> > > > > > > >     >     > > However, I'm a bit concerned with your
> suggestion
> > > > > > regarding
> > > > > > > > custom
> > > > > > > >     >     > dependency management. Can you please elaborate
> on
> > > how
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > > think it
> > > > > > > >     > should
> > > > > > > >     >     > work? Are there tools we can reuse for this
> > purpose?
> > > I
> > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > try to
> > > > > > > >     > avoid
> > > > > > > >     >     > reinventing the wheel.
> > > > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > > > >     >     > I see it as a a2enmod | 2dismod analog of
> Apache2.
> > > > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > > > >     >     > We build and store Apache Ignite and its modules
> as
> > > > > > separate
> > > > > > > > binaries
> > > > > > > >     >     > (binary per module) then use custom script that
> > will
> > > > know
> > > > > > > > where to
> > > > > > > >     > download
> > > > > > > >     >     > necessary module. Or possibly use modified
> > ignite.sh
> > > to
> > > > > > > specify
> > > > > > > >     > required
> > > > > > > >     >     > optional libs in run command while ignite.sh will
> > > > > download
> > > > > > > > everything
> > > > > > > >     >     > missing from known storage.
> > > > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > > > >     >     > The whole idea is in storing everything remotely
> > and
> > > > > > download
> > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > >     > demand,
> > > > > > > >     >     > not have all libs locally from the start.
> > > > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > > > >     >     > >
> > > > > > > >     >     > > -Val
> > > > > > > >     >     > >
> > > > > > > >     >     > > On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 11:25 PM Petr Ivanov <
> > > > > > > > mr.wei...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >     >     > <mailto:mr.wei...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >     >     > > Hi, Val!
> > > > > > > >     >     > > Thanks for your efforts on this endeavour!
> > > > > > > >     >     > >
> > > > > > > >     >     > >
> > > > > > > >     >     > > I would like to suggest deliveries changes in
> > > Apache
> > > > > > Ignite
> > > > > > > > 3.0:
> > > > > > > >     >     > >  — modularised  binary delivery — single
> minimal
> > > > binary
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > >     > starting
> > > > > > > >     >     > Ignite and all other modules and parts of the
> > project
> > > > > > > > (benchmarks,
> > > > > > > >     >     > examples, etc.) packed in their own binary which
> > can
> > > be
> > > > > > added
> > > > > > > > via
> > > > > > > >     > custom
> > > > > > > >     >     > dependency management tool (i.e. modules.sh)
> > > > > > > >     >     > >  — same distribution for RPM and DEB packages
> but
> > > > with
> > > > > > > > modules
> > > > > > > >     > packed as
> > > > > > > >     >     > separate ones (PHP for example)
> > > > > > > >     >     > >  — separate thin client release cycle with
> custom
> > > > > > > versioning
> > > > > > > >     >     > > Possibly, we can we add additional section to
> the
> > > > > > document
> > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > >     >     > introduced for this part.
> > > > > > > >     >     > >
> > > > > > > >     >     > > Also, it seems that full JDK11 support
> (including
> > > > > > building)
> > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > >     > be a
> > > > > > > >     >     > huge milestone and a sign of healthy modern
> project
> > > > that
> > > > > > > tends
> > > > > > > > to be
> > > > > > > >     > on the
> > > > > > > >     >     > verge of mainstream technologies and not the
> > > stockpile
> > > > of
> > > > > > > > legacy
> > > > > > > >     > leftovers
> > > > > > > >     >     > (fully support Iliya in removing all that was
> > > > deprecated
> > > > > > > and/or
> > > > > > > >     > marked as
> > > > > > > >     >     > unused anymore).
> > > > > > > >     >     > >
> > > > > > > >     >     > >
> > > > > > > >     >     > > > On 8 Aug 2020, at 02:00, Valentin Kulichenko
> <
> > > > > > > >     >     > valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com <mailto:
> > > > > > > > valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >     > >>
> > > > > > > >     >     > wrote:
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >
> > > > > > > >     >     > > > Igniters,
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >
> > > > > > > >     >     > > > I've created the page:
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >
> > > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache*Ignite*3.0__;Kys!!O3mv9RujDHg!2GlQzPzSAyxjW5tzyIzjaVVuR5_U_s65MCFLww8yIHRMzDqSrm5C2nkXYQErpm9uWJo_$
> > > > > > > >     > <
> > > > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache*Ignite*3.0__;Kys!!O3mv9RujDHg!2GlQzPzSAyxjW5tzyIzjaVVuR5_U_s65MCFLww8yIHRMzDqSrm5C2nkXYQErpm9uWJo_$
> > > > > > > >     > >
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >
> > > > > > > >     >     > > > That's not everything I have in mind, but I
> > > believe
> > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > >     > already a
> > > > > > > >     >     > lot
> > > > > > > >     >     > > > to talk about :)
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >
> > > > > > > >     >     > > > Please take a look let me know if you have
> any
> > > > > > concerns,
> > > > > > > >     > objections, or
> > > > > > > >     >     > > > questions. Once we reach the consensus on the
> > > > > proposed
> > > > > > > > changes,
> > > > > > > >     > I will
> > > > > > > >     >     > > > start creating tickets in Jira and a more
> > > detailed
> > > > > > plan.
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >
> > > > > > > >     >     > > > -Val
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >
> > > > > > > >     >     > > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 6:28 PM Saikat Maitra
> <
> > > > > > > >     > saikat.mai...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >     >     > <mailto:saikat.mai...@gmail.com>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >> Hi Denis, Val
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >> Thank you for your reply and really
> appreciate
> > > it.
> > > > > It
> > > > > > > > will be
> > > > > > > >     > very
> > > > > > > >     >     > cool to
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >> be able to connect and plan release together
> > and
> > > > > learn
> > > > > > > > more
> > > > > > > >     > about
> > > > > > > >     >     > Ignite in
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >> the process :)
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >> Regards
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >> Saikat
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 7:12 PM Valentin
> > > > Kulichenko <
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >> valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com <mailto:
> > > > > > > >     > valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > wrote:
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>> Hi Saikat,
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>> That surely is a great idea. We will work
> > > > together
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > Denis
> > > > > > > >     > on
> > > > > > > >     >     > setting
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>> this up in the nearest future.
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>> -Val
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 10:21 AM Denis
> Magda <
> > > > > > > > dma...@apache.org
> > > > > > > >     >     > <mailto:dma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> Saikat,
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> Fully support your idea on a virtual
> meetup!
> > > > Once
> > > > > > Val
> > > > > > > >     > collects and
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>> outlines
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> the main changes with directions on wiki,
> > > we’ll
> > > > go
> > > > > > > > ahead and
> > > > > > > >     >     > schedule
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >> the
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> meetup to talk things out in a bit more
> > > detail.
> > > > > > We’ll
> > > > > > > > use our
> > > > > > > >     > new
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >> Virtual
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> Ignite Meetup group for that inviting both
> > > > Ignite
> > > > > > > >     > contributors and
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> application developers.
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> Denis
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> On Thursday, August 6, 2020, Saikat
> Maitra <
> > > > > > > >     > saikat.mai...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >     >     > <mailto:saikat.mai...@gmail.com>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>> Hi Valentin
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>> Thank you for sharing and starting the
> > > thread.
> > > > I
> > > > > am
> > > > > > > > thinking
> > > > > > > >     > if it
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >> will
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> be
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>> a good idea to have a virtual meet setup
> to
> > > > > discuss
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >     > release
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>> planning.
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>> It will help to learn more individual
> > > features
> > > > to
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > added
> > > > > > > >     > and also
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >> to
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>> understand about features that have been
> > > > > deprecated
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > >     > scheduled
> > > > > > > >     >     > for
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>> removal in Ignite 3.0 release. Also it
> will
> > > > help
> > > > > > > > community
> > > > > > > >     > member
> > > > > > > >     >     > to
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>> connect in real time and ask questions
> and
> > > > share
> > > > > > > > feedback.
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>> Regards,
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>> Saikat
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 3:51 AM Ilya
> > > Kasnacheev
> > > > <
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com <mailto:
> > > > > > > > ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> Hello!
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> I hope to see Apache Ignite release 3.0
> as
> > > API
> > > > > > > > trimming
> > > > > > > >     > release.
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >> Let
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>> us
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> correct external and internal APIs for
> > which
> > > > we
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > better
> > > > > > > >     > ideas
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>> now,
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> as
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> well as remove old and deprecated code.
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> We may also introduce new configuration
> > > > > mechanisms
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > >     > user-facing
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>> API
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> (such as cache-less native SQL queries),
> > but
> > > > > this
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >> prototype
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>> before
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> starting the 3.0 task.
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> I will advise against targeting large
> new
> > > > > features
> > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > 3.0.
> > > > > > > >     > They
> > > > > > > >     >     > can
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>> be
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> added in subsequent point releases,
> > whereas
> > > we
> > > > > > can't
> > > > > > > > really
> > > > > > > >     > remove
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >> or
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> remodel stuff in point releases.
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> Regards,
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> --
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> Ilya Kasnacheev
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> чт, 6 авг. 2020 г. в 03:54, Valentin
> > > > Kulichenko
> > > > > <
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com <mailto:
> > > > > > > >     >     > valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com>>:
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>> Igniters,
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>> I would like to kick off a discussion
> > > > regarding
> > > > > > > > Ignite 3.0.
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >> Ignite
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> 2.0
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>> exists for more than 3 years now and
> > we've
> > > > > > already
> > > > > > > >     > collected a
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> significant
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>> list [1] of changes that we would like
> to
> > > > have,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > cannot
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>> implement
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>> without breaking compatibility.
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>> I think it's time to start planning for
> > the
> > > > > next
> > > > > > > > major
> > > > > > > >     > release
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >> and
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>> discussing what should be included.
> I've
> > > > > already
> > > > > > > > gathered
> > > > > > > >     > some
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> information
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>> and feedback, and have some thoughts on
> > how
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > approach
> > > > > > > >     > this. In
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>> the
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>> next
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>> few days, I will put everything into a
> > Wiki
> > > > > page
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > >     > share
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >> it
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> once
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>> this is done. Stay tuned!
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>> I'm willing to drive the 3.0 activities
> > > going
> > > > > > > > forward as
> > > > > > > >     > well.
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>> In the meantime, if there are any
> > immediate
> > > > > > > thoughts
> > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > >     > ideas,
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>> please
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> feel
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>> free to join the thread and share them.
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>> [1]
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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> > > > > > > >     >     >
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > > > > >     > >
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>> Apache+Ignite+3.0+Wishlist
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>> Regards,
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>> Val
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> --
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> -
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> Denis
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>>
> > > > > > > >     >     > > >>
> > > > > > > >     >     > >
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