Guys,

During internal testing, we've found a critical bug with discovery (cluster
falls apart if two nodes segmented sequentially). This problem is not
reproduced in 2.8.1. I think we should fix it before release. Under
investigation now. I'll let you know when we get something.

чт, 17 сент. 2020 г. в 00:51, Andrey Gura <ag...@apache.org>:

> > So what do you think? Should we proceed with a 'hacked' version of the
> message factory in 2.9 and go for the runtime message generation in later
> release, or keep the code clean and fix the regression in the next releases?
> > Andrey, can you take a look at my change? I think it is fairly
> straightforward and does not change the semantics, just skips the factory
> closures for certain messages.
>
> IMHO 2.5% isn't too much especially because it isn't actual for all
> workloads (I didn't get any significant drops during benchmarking). So
> I prefer the runtime generation in later releases.
>
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 12:41 PM Alexey Goncharuk
> <alexey.goncha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Alexey, Andrey, Igniters,
> >
> > So what do you think? Should we proceed with a 'hacked' version of the
> message factory in 2.9 and go for the runtime message generation in later
> release, or keep the code clean and fix the regression in the next releases?
> > Andrey, can you take a look at my change? I think it is fairly
> straightforward and does not change the semantics, just skips the factory
> closures for certain messages.
> >
> > Personally, I would prefer fixing the regression given that we also
> introduced tracing in this release.
> >
> >
> >
> > пт, 11 сент. 2020 г. в 12:09, Alex Plehanov <plehanov.a...@gmail.com>:
> >>
> >> Alexey,
> >>
> >> We've benchmarked by yardstick commits 130376741bf vs ed52559eb95 and
> the performance of ed52559eb95 is better for about 2.5% on average on our
> environment (about the same results we got benchmarking 65c30ec6 vs
> 0606f03d). We've made 24 runs for each commit of
> IgnitePutTxImplicitBenchmark (we got maximum drop for 2.9 on this
> benchmark), 200 seconds warmup, 300 seconds benchmark, 6 servers, 5 clients
> 50 threads each. Yardstick results for this configuration:
> >> Commit 130376741bf: avg TPS=164096, avg latency=9173464 ns
> >> Commit ed52559eb95: avg TPS=168283, avg latency=8945908 ns
> >>
> >> пт, 11 сент. 2020 г. в 09:51, Artem Budnikov <
> a.budnikov.ign...@gmail.com>:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Everyone,
> >>>
> >>> I posted an instruction on how to publish the docs on
> ignite.apache.org/docs [1]. When you finish with Ignite 2.9, you can
> update the docs by following the instruction. Unfortunately, I won't be
> able to spend any time on this project any longer. You can send your pull
> requests and questions about the documentation to Denis Magda.
> >>>
> >>> -Artem
> >>>
> >>> [1] :
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/How+to+Document
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 2:45 PM Alexey Goncharuk <
> alexey.goncha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Alexey,
> >>>>
> >>>> I've tried to play with message factories locally, but unfortunately,
> I
> >>>> cannot spot the difference between old and new implementation in
> >>>> distributed benchmarks. I pushed an implementation of
> MessageFactoryImpl
> >>>> with the old switch statement to the ignite-2.9-revert-12568 branch
> >>>> (discussed this with Andrey Gura, the change should be compatible
> with the
> >>>> new metrics as we still use the register() mechanics).
> >>>>
> >>>> Can you check if this change makes any difference performance-wise in
> your
> >>>> environment? If yes, we can go with runtime code generation in the
> long
> >>>> term: register classes and generate a dynamic message factory with a
> switch
> >>>> statement once all messages are registered (not in 2.9 though,
> obviously).
> >>>>
> >>>> ср, 9 сент. 2020 г. в 14:53, Alex Plehanov <plehanov.a...@gmail.com>:
> >>>>
> >>>> > Hello guys,
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I've tried to optimize tracing implementation (ticket [1]), it
> reduced the
> >>>> > drop, but not completely removed it.
> >>>> > Ivan Rakov, Alexander Lapin, can you please review the patch?
> >>>> > Ivan Artiukhov, can you please benchmark the patch [2] against 2.8.1
> >>>> > release on your environment?
> >>>> > With this patch on our environment, it's about a 3% drop left, it's
> close
> >>>> > to measurement error and I think such a drop is not a showstopper.
> Guys,
> >>>> > WDYT?
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Also, I found that compatibility is broken for JDBC thin driver
> between 2.8
> >>>> > and 2.9 versions (ticket [3]). I think it's a blocker and should be
> >>>> > fixed in 2.9. I've prepared the patch.
> >>>> > Taras Ledkov, can you please review this patch?
> >>>> >
> >>>> > And one more ticket I propose to include into 2.9 [4] (NIO message
> >>>> > send problem in some circumstances). I will cherry-pick it if there
> is no
> >>>> > objection.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-13411
> >>>> > [2] https://github.com/apache/ignite/pull/8223
> >>>> > [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-13414
> >>>> > [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-13361
> >>>> >
> >>>> > пн, 7 сент. 2020 г. в 14:14, Maxim Muzafarov <mmu...@apache.org>:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > > Alexey,
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > I propose to include [1] issue to the 2.9 release. Since this
> issue is
> >>>> > > related to the new master key change functionality which haven't
> been
> >>>> > > released yet I think it will be safe to cherry-pick commit to the
> >>>> > > release branch.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-13390
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 at 12:13, Nikolay Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org
> >
> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > > Hello, Igniters.
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > > Alexey, please, include one more Python thin client fix [1]
> into the
> >>>> > 2.9
> >>>> > > release
> >>>> > > > It fixes kinda major issue - "Python client returns fields in
> wrong
> >>>> > > order since the 2 row when fields_count>10"
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12809
> >>>> > > > [2]
> >>>> > >
> >>>> >
> https://github.com/apache/ignite/commit/38025ee4167f05eaa2d6a2c5c2ab70c83a462cfc
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > > > 31 авг. 2020 г., в 19:23, Alexey Goncharuk <
> >>>> > alexey.goncha...@gmail.com>
> >>>> > > написал(а):
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > > > Alexey, thanks, got it. I am not sure we can optimize
> anything out of
> >>>> > > the
> >>>> > > > > message factory with suppliers (at least I have no ideas
> right now),
> >>>> > so
> >>>> > > > > most likely the only move here is to switch back to the switch
> >>>> > approach
> >>>> > > > > somehow preserving the metrics part. Probably, inlining the
> Ignite
> >>>> > > messages
> >>>> > > > > to the IgniteMessageFactoryImpl should do the trick. Let me
> explore
> >>>> > the
> >>>> > > > > code a bit.
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > > > P.S. I am surprised by the impact this part makes for the
> >>>> > performance.
> >>>> > > > > Message creation is indeed on the hot path, but a single
> virtual call
> >>>> > > > > should not make that much of a difference given the amount of
> other
> >>>> > > work
> >>>> > > > > happening during the message processing.
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > > > пн, 31 авг. 2020 г. в 18:33, Alex Plehanov <
> plehanov.a...@gmail.com
> >>>> > >:
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > > >> Alexey, sorry, I wrongly interpreted our benchmark results.
> >>>> > Actually,
> >>>> > > we
> >>>> > > > >> were looking for a drop using bi-sect in the range between
> e6a7f93
> >>>> > > (first
> >>>> > > > >> commit in the 2.9 branch after 2.8 branch cut) and 6592dfa5
> (last
> >>>> > > commit in
> >>>> > > > >> the 2.9 branch). And we found these two problematic commits.
> >>>> > > > >>
> >>>> > > > >> Perhaps only IGNITE-13060 (Tracing) is responsible for a drop
> >>>> > between
> >>>> > > > >> 2.8.1 and 2.9 (we have benchmarked 2.8.1 vs 2.9 with reverted
> >>>> > > IGNITE-13060
> >>>> > > > >> now and performance looks the same)
> >>>> > > > >>
> >>>> > > > >> Ticket IGNITE-12568 (MessageFactory refactoring) is not
> related to
> >>>> > > drop
> >>>> > > > >> between 2.8.1 and 2.9, but still has some performance
> problem, and
> >>>> > we
> >>>> > > can
> >>>> > > > >> win back IGNITE-13060 drop by this ticket.
> >>>> > > > >>
> >>>> > > > >> Do we need more investigation on IGNITE-13060 or we leave it
> as is?
> >>>> > > > >>
> >>>> > > > >> What should we do with IGNITE-12568 (MessageFactory
> refactoring)?
> >>>> > > > >>
> >>>> > > > >> пн, 31 авг. 2020 г. в 13:25, Alexey Goncharuk <
> >>>> > > alexey.goncha...@gmail.com
> >>>> > > > >>> :
> >>>> > > > >>
> >>>> > > > >>> Alexey,
> >>>> > > > >>>
> >>>> > > > >>> While investigating, I found that IGNITE-12568 has an
> incorrect fix
> >>>> > > > >>> version and is actually present in ignite-2.8.1 branch [1],
> so it
> >>>> > > cannot be
> >>>> > > > >>> the source of the drop against 2.8.1.
> >>>> > > > >>>
> >>>> > > > >>> P.S. Looks like we need to enforce a more accurate work
> with fix
> >>>> > > versions
> >>>> > > > >>> or develop some sort of tooling to verify the fix versions.
> >>>> > > > >>>
> >>>> > > > >>> --AG
> >>>> > > > >>>
> >>>> > > > >>> [1]
> >>>> > > > >>>
> >>>> > >
> >>>> >
> https://github.com/apache/ignite/commit/3e492bd23851856bbd0385c6a419892d0bba2a34
> >>>> > > > >>>
> >>>> > > > >>> пн, 31 авг. 2020 г. в 12:42, Alexey Goncharuk <
> >>>> > > alexey.goncha...@gmail.com
> >>>> > > > >>>> :
> >>>> > > > >>>
> >>>> > > > >>>> пт, 28 авг. 2020 г. в 11:16, Alex Plehanov <
> >>>> > plehanov.a...@gmail.com
> >>>> > > >:
> >>>> > > > >>>>
> >>>> > > > >>>>> Guys,
> >>>> > > > >>>>>
> >>>> > > > >>>>> We have benchmarked 2.9 without IGNITE-13060 and
> IGNITE-12568
> >>>> > > (reverted
> >>>> > > > >>>>> it
> >>>> > > > >>>>> locally) and got the same performance as on 2.8.1
> >>>> > > > >>>>>
> >>>> > > > >>>>> IGNITE-13060 (Tracing) - some code was added to hot
> paths, to
> >>>> > trace
> >>>> > > > >>>>> these
> >>>> > > > >>>>> hot paths, it's clear why we have performance drop here.
> >>>> > > > >>>>>
> >>>> > > > >>>>> IGNITE-12568 (MessageFactory refactoring) - switch/case
> block was
> >>>> > > > >>>>> refactored to an array of message suppliers. The message
> factory
> >>>> > > is on
> >>>> > > > >>>>> the
> >>>> > > > >>>>> hot path, which explains why this commit has an impact on
> total
> >>>> > > > >>>>> performance.
> >>>> > > > >>>>> I've checked JIT assembly output, done some JMH
> microbenchmarks,
> >>>> > > and
> >>>> > > > >>>>> found
> >>>> > > > >>>>> that old implementation of MessageFactory.create() about
> 30-35%
> >>>> > > faster
> >>>> > > > >>>>> than
> >>>> > > > >>>>> the new one. The reason - approach with switch/case can
> >>>> > effectively
> >>>> > > > >>>>> inline
> >>>> > > > >>>>> message creation code, but with an array of suppliers
> relatively
> >>>> > > heavy
> >>>> > > > >>>>> "invokeinterface" cannot be skipped. I've tried to
> rewrite the
> >>>> > code
> >>>> > > > >>>>> using
> >>>> > > > >>>>> an abstract class for suppliers instead of an interface
> (to
> >>>> > > > >>>>> replace "invokeinterface" with the "invokevirtual"), but
> it gives
> >>>> > > back
> >>>> > > > >>>>> only
> >>>> > > > >>>>> 10% of method performance and in this case, code looks
> ugly
> >>>> > > (lambdas
> >>>> > > > >>>>> can't
> >>>> > > > >>>>> be used). Currently, I can't find any more ways to
> optimize the
> >>>> > > current
> >>>> > > > >>>>> approach (except return to the switch/case block). Andrey
> Gura,
> >>>> > as
> >>>> > > the
> >>>> > > > >>>>> author of IGNITE-12568, maybe you have some ideas about
> >>>> > > optimization?
> >>>> > > > >>>>>
> >>>> > > > >>>>> Perhaps we should revert IGNITE-12568, but there are some
> metrics
> >>>> > > > >>>>> already
> >>>> > > > >>>>> created, which can't be rewritten using old message
> factory
> >>>> > > > >>>>> implementation
> >>>> > > > >>>>> (IGNITE-12756). Guys, WDYT?
> >>>> > > > >>>>>
> >>>> > > > >>>>
> >>>> > > > >>>> Alexey,
> >>>> > > > >>>>
> >>>> > > > >>>> I see that IGNITE-12756 (metrics improvements) is already
> released
> >>>> > > in
> >>>> > > > >>>> Ignite 2.8.1 while IGNITE-12568 (message factory) is only
> present
> >>>> > > in Ignite
> >>>> > > > >>>> 2.9. Let's revert both IGNITE-12568 and whichever new
> metrics
> >>>> > > created for
> >>>> > > > >>>> 2.9 that depend on the new message factory to unblock the
> release
> >>>> > > and deal
> >>>> > > > >>>> with the optimizations in 2.10?
> >>>> > > > >>>>
> >>>> > > > >>>
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > >
> >>>> >
>

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