On 13.03.2015 01:17, Dmitriy Setrakyan wrote:
> Roman,
>
> Unfortunately we are forced at this point to take the same path as DataStax
> with planetcassandra.org (granted, of course, that community agrees). Here
> are the main reasons:
>
> 1. We have already invested over a month of very hard and scrupulous labor
> on producing documentation in readme.io and simply do not have another
> month to do it in another tool. (I have sent out my first email about
> readme.io on Feb 9 and unfortunately got feedback about it not being
> genuine from ASF standpoint only a month later)

I wonder what's the rush here. You don't have a deadline, neither for
publishing the docs nor for graduating from the Incubator.


> 2. Readme.io gives a huge productivity boost for creating documentation by
> providing various CSS templates, versioning, wysiwyg editor, and community
> forum. I am not aware of any Markdown tool with such capabilities, and even
> if we find one, we probably would spend another month editing CSS just to
> make it look as pretty.
>
> I appreciate everyone's feedback on this. If there are no objections, I
> will start editing documentation to make sure that it has proper use of
> Apache trademarks and attributions.
>
> D.
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Dmitriy Setrakyan
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I understand that no-one is trying to make things harder, but at the same
>>> time, I mostly hear "DON'T DO THIS" and "DON'T DO THAT". What I would
>>> appreciate is if we all tried to come up with a way to keep docs in
>>> readme.io (especially given that many within community sweated for the
>> past
>>> month on adding documentation to readme.io).
>>>
>>> I have several questions:
>>>
>>>    1. Is this technicality about which tool is used to create
>> documentation
>>>    documented somewhere? I cannot find anything. I treat readme.io as a
>>>    tool for creating documentation which I then add to GIT.
>> It is about where the canonical source of truth is. You *have* to have it
>> at *.apache.org. You're more than welcome to have mirrors all over
>> the place, of course.
>>
>> There's also a matter of fostering the community by lowering the barrier
>> of entry. As a developer on the project I would really appreciate if
>> changing documentation followed the same process as changing code.
>> This is not a hard requirement, but it really helps. I don't want yet
>> another
>> process. I want to be able to commit to the same repo.
>>
>>>    2. Are 3rd parties allowed to provide documentation for Apache
>> Projects
>>>    (cannot imagine why not or how we can stop them)? If so, we can
>> maintain
>>>    this documentation as provided by 3rd party and treat Javadoc, which
>> is
>>>    part of the source code, as the primary source documentation for
>> Apache
>>>    Ignite. Also, all pages important to the community, like "Get
>> Involved" for
>>>    example, will be kept directly on the Ignite website.
>> You can, of course, splinter your documentation. Case in point:
>> http://planetcassandra.org/
>> which is operated by DataStax folks. However, as a general recommendation
>> I will really encourage you NOT to do so for core project.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Roman.
>>

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