I agree.

On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Lars Volker <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback here and in the review.
>
> I agree that we should aim for a style as close to PEP8 as possible.
> However, I also didn't want to overshoot and my first goal was to get some
> useful tooling set up, so that I don't have to constantly worry about
> formatting. Once I had figured out some tooling, I thought I might as well
> share it and solicit feedback.
>
> Regarding the next steps, I'm open for anything really. I didn't know about
> the --diff switch of flake8, that looks very useful. Even better of course
> would be, if all python code could be converted to PEP8.
>
> Here is a list of all PEP8 violations and their count, obtained with
> "pycodestyle --statistics -qq tests":
>
> 9017    E111 indentation is not a multiple of four
> 902     E114 indentation is not a multiple of four (comment)
> 2       E116 unexpected indentation (comment)
> 24      E122 continuation line missing indentation or outdented
> 5       E124 closing bracket does not match visual indentation
> 105     E125 continuation line with same indent as next logical line
> 43      E127 continuation line over-indented for visual indent
> 1038    E128 continuation line under-indented for visual indent
> 7       E131 continuation line unaligned for hanging indent
> 13      E201 whitespace after '('
> 8       E202 whitespace before ']'
> 55      E203 whitespace before ':'
> 5       E211 whitespace before '['
> 5       E221 multiple spaces before operator
> 7       E222 multiple spaces after operator
> 9       E225 missing whitespace around operator
> 1       E227 missing whitespace around bitwise or shift operator
> 127     E231 missing whitespace after ':'
> 157     E251 unexpected spaces around keyword / parameter equals
> 20      E261 at least two spaces before inline comment
> 21      E265 block comment should start with '# '
> 1       E266 too many leading '#' for block comment
> 1       E271 multiple spaces after keyword
> 4       E301 expected 1 blank line, found 0
> 313     E302 expected 2 blank lines, found 1
> 16      E303 too many blank lines (2)
> 13      E305 expected 2 blank lines after class or function definition,
> found 1
> 6       E306 expected 1 blank line before a nested definition, found 0
> 7       E402 module level import not at top of file
> 3800    E501 line too long (80 > 79 characters)
> 278     E502 the backslash is redundant between brackets
> 87      E701 multiple statements on one line (colon)
> 74      E703 statement ends with a semicolon
> 12      E711 comparison to None should be 'if cond is None:'
> 9       E712 comparison to False should be 'if cond is False:' or 'if not
> cond:'
> 2       E713 test for membership should be 'not in'
> 2       E741 ambiguous variable name 'l'
> 1       W292 no newline at end of file
> 9       W391 blank line at end of file
> 2       W601 .has_key() is deprecated, use 'in'
> 19      W602 deprecated form of raising exception
>
> If we take out the well known ones (indent, line width), it does not look
> too far fetched to me to change it all to PEP8.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Michael Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks. I made some comments on the review, but I see now I should
>> probably share my general view here.
>>
>> My general view is, if we are going to codify our Python style guide,
>> I would rather we codify style conventions that are closer to standard
>> Python style conventions, rather than codify what is currently done. I
>> am willing to keep 2-space indents and 90-char lines, but I don't
>> think anything else should be part of the conventions when those
>> conventions involves ignoring PEP-008. My instinct tells me the Python
>> conventions weren't conventions at all, but came up organically
>> without regard to actually reading conventions or using tooling.
>> Otherwise, we'd have already had a Python style guide, right?
>>
>> If the concern is "But there are too many noisy errors if I am editing
>> an existing, large file, so we should ignore these anyway", something
>> like this is possible:
>>
>> git diff | flake8 --diff
>>
>> This will only show PEP-008 problems on changed code, not whole files.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Lars Volker <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Cool, thanks Michael for the reply. I added a section on Python to the
>> Impala
>> > Style Guide
>> > <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IMPALA/Impala+Style+Guide>.
>> > Please feel free to edit it or let me know if I should make changes. I
>> will
>> > also send out a review to add a .pep8rc file to the repository.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 11:56 PM, Michael Brown <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I prefer str.format() over the % operator, because:
>> >>
>> >> https://docs.python.org/2.7/library/stdtypes.html#str.format
>> >>
>> >> "This method of string formatting is the new standard in Python 3, and
>> >> should be preferred to the % formatting described in String Formatting
>> >> Operations in new code."
>> >>
>> >> Without an Impala Python style guide, I tend to use what I see on
>> >> docs.python.org, modulo our 2-space indent and 90-char line policy.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Lars Volker <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> > Hi All,
>> >> >
>> >> > do we have a strong preference for either old style or new style
>> string
>> >> > formatting in Python?
>> >> >
>> >> > "Hello %s!" % ("world") *vs* "Hello {0}!".format("world")
>> >> >
>> >> > The Impala Style Guide
>> >> > <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IMPALA/
>> Impala+Style+Guide>
>> >> doesn't
>> >> > mention Python at all.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks, Lars
>> >>
>>

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