Perfection is the barrier to progress. I see no risk to doing it and
recommend it's a very low priority issue and the PMC should proceed
as-is unless there is an actual, demonstrable risk.

On 10/30/2019 6:13 PM, Justin Mclean wrote:
> Hi Kevin,
> I don't disagree. I would assume if projects are asked to stop using it the
> Apache site would also no longer use it.
> Perhaps it's time to ask legal / board again on progress with this?
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
> On Wed, 30 Oct 2019, 22:58 Kevin A. McGrail, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Sounds like some people who think it's good for the goose but not the
>> gander as the idiom goes.  If www.apache.org uses it, a project should
>> be ok to use it.  People are very used to using analytics and these are
>> large companies.  They are best setup to handle privacy issues like
>> GDPR.  A solution we roll ourselves is not.
>>
>>
>> On 10/30/2019 5:12 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote:
>>> Hi Xiangdong,
>>>
>>> That's the easy way ... I would strongly suggest not to do it.
>>> I 100% agree with Justin, not to use an external tracking service.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 30.10.19, 09:51 schrieb "Xiangdong Huang" <[email protected]>:
>>>
>>>     Hi,
>>>
>>>     According to the jira discussion, sounds Apache Infra can support
>> the data:
>>>     > If you need insight, please work with the infrastructure team - we
>> can
>>>     provide you aggregated views of data.
>>>
>>>     I think I can have a try to look what the data looks like from Infra.
>>>
>>>      > So far nothing official has been decided, but my reading of
>> various list
>>>     (and other JIRA issues) is that projects will at some point in the
>> near
>>>     future be asked not to use it.
>>>     > The PPMC can of course decide to use it until that point.
>>>
>>>     From my opinion, I'd like to enable the track using Google Analytics
>> for a
>>>     while, as now iotdb is in a emerging stage and it may help us to
>>>     improvement the website better.
>>>
>>>      Best,
>>>     -----------------------------------
>>>     Xiangdong Huang
>>>     School of Software, Tsinghua University
>>>
>>>      黄向东
>>>     清华大学 软件学院
>>>
>>>
>>>     Justin Mclean <[email protected]> 于2019年10月30日周三 下午4:27写道:
>>>
>>>     > Hi,
>>>     >
>>>     > See https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-470
>>>     >
>>>     > Note: "Yes, please avoid using Google Analytics or any other
>> third-party
>>>     > analytics solution that ships our users' data elsewhere. If you
>> need
>>>     > insight, please work with the infrastructure team - we can provide
>> you
>>>     > aggregated views of data.”
>>>     >
>>>     > So far nothing official has been decided, but my reading of
>> various list
>>>     > (and other JIRA issues) is that projects will at some point in the
>> near
>>>     > future be asked not to use it.
>>>     >
>>>     > The PPMC can of course decide to use it until that point.
>>>     >
>>>     > Thanks,
>>>     > Justin
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Kevin A. McGrail
>> [email protected]
>>
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>>
>>
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