Thanks Johan.  Did you keep in the final paragraph?  Any concerns or
thoughts about that?

Thx
Dan

On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 at 08:57, Johan Doornenbal <[email protected]> wrote:

> Tnx Dan,
>
> Since the deadline is close, I decided to publish the text for the report
> this morning.
>
> Best regards / Met vriendelijke groet,
>
> Johan Doornenbal
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> Op vr 7 jan. 2022 om 08:33 schreef Dan Haywood <
> [email protected]>:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Johan will be submitting this, but I've drafted the following for our
>> quarterly report.
>>
>> Note in particular the questions I've posed in the last paragraph.  Happy
>> to drop that last paragraph if we'd rather have a preliminary discussion
>> here first, but are there any opinions on the idea?
>>
>> Thx
>> Dan
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> ## Description:
>> The mission of Isis is the creation and maintenance of software related to
>> Framework for rapidly developing domain-driven apps in Java
>>
>> ## Issues:
>> There are no issues requiring board attention at this time.
>>
>> ## Membership Data:
>> Apache Isis was founded 2012-10-17 (9 years ago)
>> There are currently 15 committers and 15 PMC members in this project.
>> The Committer-to-PMC ratio is 1:1.
>>
>> Community changes, past quarter:
>> - No new PMC members. Last addition was Jörg Rade on 2020-04-12.
>> - No new committers. Last addition was Jörg Rade on 2020-03-23.
>>
>> ## Project Activity:
>> There continues to be substantial development work on v2.0, with the
>> framework being "re-platformed" to run on top of Spring Boot.
>>
>> We had hoped to deliver a final M7 milestone before the end of the year,
>> but
>> missed that target.  We fully expect that to be delivered this quarter.
>> The
>> M7 release includes some quite deep simplifications and refinements of
>> the
>> programming model that we are looking forward to using ourselves!
>>
>> After that the plan remains to move to RCs for final bugfixes.  We then
>> look to the project rename, mentioned in previous reports.
>>
>> ## Community Health:
>> This is a mature project. The framework is generally stable. While there
>> is
>> little activity on the mailing lists, there is frequent activity on the
>> Slack channel (more on this topic below).
>>
>> We do recognise that the community engagement is below a sustainable
>> level,
>> but have high hopes for 2.0 (with its switch to defacto standards such as
>> Spring Boot and JPA) to reinvigorate the community; if we decide to rename
>> the project then this will be more like relaunch.  We have now started
>> submitting talks to a number of conferences to start the "marketing"
>> effort
>> later this year.
>>
>> ## Comments requested:
>> While we've been enjoying using Slack as an additional means to support
>> the
>> community, we recently discovered that Slack is now only "invite only",
>> thus
>> likely to be a barrier to participation.  We note that the Camel project
>> provides a link to Zulip (https://camel.zulipchat.com/login/).  We do
>> understand that the mailing list must remain the official communication
>> channel, but is there anything in the ASF byelaws to prevent us from
>> following
>> Camel's lead?
>>
>> Separately, a number of committers and PMC members are no longer involved
>> in
>> the project... of the 15, there is a core of 4 who are still actively
>> involved.  We know that ASF doesn't support the notion of "emeritus"
>> members.
>> As we are considering a rename, would it even be worthwhile to
>> archive the project and the kick off its successor as a new project in
>> the
>> incubator?
>>
>>
>>

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