On Jun 16, 2014, at 3:14 PM, Andrew Gaul <g...@apache.org> wrote: > I agree that we should have few requirements, e.g., we should not > *require* contributors to be nice to each other. However, we should > *encourage* certain behaviors, e.g., contributors should treat each > other with respect.
Honestly, this e.g. has taken me aback. Presumably you’re referring to my 2nd email on this thread. I felt strongly about the issue and stated my opinion as such. Reading back on it I can see that the tone is much too harsh. I apologize for that. Nice is relative but I promise you that I approached this issue the way I did out of respect for you, AP, and the jclouds community. This discussion didn’t belong in a PR so I moved it here for more visibility by the community. My 2nd email (admittedly an overly harsh rant) could easily have been the initial email. Instead, I tried to objectively state the facts to start the discussion. I did this out of respect for the community. > I recommend using the Apache branding when representing the project. > Tagging commits and emails emphasizes the project first and other > affiliations second. When wearing my Apache hat[1], committers and > users should expect me to act in the best interests of the project and > not my or an employer's interests. Using apache.org livery reinforces > these behaviors and perceptions. That being said, I do not plan to > police every social interaction or inspect every commit email address. > > [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#hats Thanks for the link, I hadn’t come across this before. It definitely gives me a much better idea of the ASF perspective on the issue. Yes I act in the best interests of the project. I’m also fortunate to work for an employer whose interests are also aligned with those of the project. That’s why I feel comfortable using my Rackspace email. But this definitely gives me something to think about and consider. The important part to me is that we don’t exclude some future committer because their company policy requires that they use their corporate email in commits. > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 12:08:28PM -0600, Chris Custine wrote: >> FWIW, In my 8 years as a committer, PMC member, chair, etc on 8+ Apache >> projects, I don't recall ever having this discussion before. Informally, I >> have always encouraged people to use either their apache.org address or at >> least a personal gmail address where possible just to reduce the >> "perception" of corporate sponsorship. However, I have seen people use >> their corporate email addresses and I am not aware of any rule expressly >> forbidding that. I’d say your 8+ years of experience is worth a lot. :) Thanks for your views on this. Regards, Everett
