Thanks for all the feedback so far!

Zack, would you be able to provide more detail on the boxed types/nullables
instead of using Optional, and possibly why one approach is better than
the 
other?

/jd

On 8/15/14, 8:42 AM, "Zack Shoylev" <zack.shoy...@rackspace.com> wrote:

>I think this is mostly about better documenting the annotations or using
>standard annotations that findbugs understands - less so about more magic.
>
>About Optional vs null - new code I have been working on has been heavily
>using boxed types/nullables instead of optional.. so we should talk about
>that too :)
>________________________________________
>From: Andrew Gaul [g...@apache.org]
>Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 7:59 PM
>To: dev@jclouds.apache.org
>Subject: Re: antlr4 Annotation Processor
>
>On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:26:15AM +0100, Aled Sage wrote:
>> There are way too many options out there [1]. I haven't tried antlr4
>> so would also appreciate a summary of why it's better than the other
>> options.
>>
>> Following Andrew Gaul's point, I'm not convinced about adding
>> @NonNull all over the place. Most of our code is guaranteed to not
>> return null.
>> e.g. guava did not choose to use @NonNull on ImmutableList.of() or
>> on Iterables.find(...)!
>>
>> Guava chose to use javax.annotation.Nullable (though JSR-305 is now
>> inactive).
>> That has good support in IDEs and tools like FindBugs.
>
>I might have misunderstood the proposal; do we want to use some new
>magic annotation-based programming, e.g., Lombok, or do we merely want a
>standard replacement for @Nullable and other annotations?  For the
>former, I strongly oppose as before.  For the latter, I believe jclouds
>uses its own annotations instead of com.google.code.findbugs.jsr305 as a
>concession to Karaf.  We moved from jsr305 to
>org.jclouds.javax.annotation in commit 87dd235.  I weakly support using
>some standard annotation for to enable FindBugs but realistically few
>people have fixed any warnings in the last several years.  For new code
>we should avoid null and prefer Guava Optional.
>
>--
>Andrew Gaul
>http://gaul.org/

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