Thanks for starting this discussion Svet!

It would be great to come up with a solution we are happy with.

The main issue I see here is that the primary entity of the extension,
the SecurityGroup, does not have a mapping in GCE (which was one of
the reasons we decided to remove the old implementation).

I am OK applying conventions to implement the extension somehow, but
conventions are tricky when it comes to deal with existing stuff in
the provider. With this proposal, what are your plans to implement the
"listSecurityGroups()" and "listSecurityGroupsInLocation(Location
location)" methods? There is also a method to list the security groups
from a node. Given that the ComputeService is able to "listNodes" that
weren't created by jclouds, in case of a returned Node that already
has firewall rules assigned but that don't fit in our naming
conventions, how would the "listSecurityGroupsForNode(String id)"
behave?

I.

On 15 June 2017 at 09:03, Svetoslav Neykov
<svetoslav.ney...@cloudsoftcorp.com> wrote:
> I'd like to try implement the SecurityGroupExtension interface for GCE. 
> Looking at the documentation it seems that the combination of firewall rules 
> and node tags is flexible enough to allow us implement the functionality.
> It's been tried before but the implementation's been removed (see [1]). It's 
> main drawback was that for each security group the code creates a new network.
> Currently the biggest mismatch between the jclouds abstraction and the GCE 
> functionality is that firewall rules must be attached to a network.
> Here's my suggested approach:
> IpPermission roughly corresponds to a firewall rule
> SecurityGroup is just a collection of firewall rules (there's no cloud 
> resource that corresponds to it). The firewall rules of a security group 
> share the same prefix - jclouds-sg-<sg name>-<permission suffix>. They all 
> belong to the same network.
> They key bit: createSecurityGroup accepts a Location with a scope of Network, 
> returning a custom implementation of SecurityGroup which keeps a reference to 
> the network, so all IpPermission objects added subsequently will be on it.
> While the suggested approach fits into the SecurityGroupExtension interface 
> it's different enough from the other implementations that it might not be 
> worth the trouble of implementing and supporting (even be harmful as users 
> might be surprised by the different behaviour).
> Would be interested in hearing other opinions on the approach. I've created a 
> Jira to track the effort at [2].
>
> Svet.
>
>
> [1] 
> https://github.com/jclouds/jclouds/commit/2ba48dc9f66416b5d8515bd6a07b27a213d89a7c
>  
> <https://github.com/jclouds/jclouds/commit/2ba48dc9f66416b5d8515bd6a07b27a213d89a7c>
> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JCLOUDS-1309 
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JCLOUDS-1309>
>

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