Any release should take in the region of a week assuming everyone is happy
with the state of the code and people have been testing continuously.
There's no reason a release should take much longer than that unless any
serious issues crop up during the process


It's mainly a question of someone having the free time to shepherd the
process through because it is somewhat time consuming in parts

Rob

On 9/12/12 11:04 AM, "Simon Helsen" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Well, we had two timescales in mind:
>
>Either very quick, i.e. sometime next week :-) That would give our
>verification testers enough time to get decent coverage before release
>and 
>would just be sufficient to get legal aspects out of the way. I realize
>that would have been ambitious either way, but in the past, I have
>observed with Jena 2.7.2 and Jena 2.7.3, it took you guys no more than a
>week from the intend of releasing to getting it cleared and voted on.
>Anyhow, I was kind of assuming that wouldn't be possible anymore, so the
>next window of opportunity for us would be December at which point our
>integration testers would probably be in a position to hammer the thing
>and there would be plenty of room for legal.
>
>I realize this is volunteer effort, so we are not demanding anything of
>course, but 2.7.3 was not good enough for us in terms of stability and
>2.7.1, well, we can live with it, but it is not as robust under crashes
>as 
>2.7.4. Also, it seems slightly faster
>
>
>
>
>From:
>Andy Seaborne <[email protected]>
>To:
>Simon Helsen/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
>Cc:
>[email protected], Philippe P Mulet <[email protected]>
>Date:
>09/12/2012 01:41 PM
>Subject:
>Re: 2.7.4 release?
>
>
>
>Simon,
>
>What timescale are you working to?
>
>                 Andy
>
>On 12/09/12 15:26, Simon Helsen wrote:
>> Thanks Andy
>>
>> "The changes (post TDB 0.9.3) for optimized and correct transactions are
>> new and really could do with bedding down.  If you could go beyond basic
>> testing that would be helpful so things get raised before a .4 release."
>>
>> we are in the process of getting more comprehensive tests done,but that
>> process is quite resource intensive as you can imagine. If there is no
>> prospect of having a .4 release on time, it is also more difficult to
>> justify. You have to see it this way: we can easily test snapshots
>> (pre-releases) with our own development automated tests and some limited
>> scalability tests of some of our clients. Beyond that, it becomes
>> cumbersome to test snapshots because we can never get legal approval for
>> these, meaning we can't bring the changes into our main development
>> stream etc. We are then forced to produce custom builds and equip our
>> testers with these. Nothing is impossible, but some things are more
>> difficult and more importantly, take more time.
>>
>> "The deprecations in jena-core could do with some inspection before a
>> release because the point of deprecating them is that they can then get
>> removed."
>>
>> Right, however, I assume that for a .4, these APIs would just be
>> deprecated and not removed, right?
>>
>> "The SDB release cycle is going quite well - and doing a lightweight
>> community "Release Candidate" seems to have been a success.  We have
>> reports, and something has been reported that could do with
>investigation."
>>
>> Right, I understand that, although I am not sure if an SDB release has
>> to be a prereq for a .4 service release
>>
>> "It would be nice to release LARQ as a post-incubator."
>>
>> I agree, but here as well, is that really a prereq for a service
>release?
>>
>> "Things are busy."
>>
>> no doubt
>>
>>
>> From:                  Andy Seaborne <[email protected]>
>> To:            [email protected], Philippe P Mulet
><[email protected]>
>> Date:                  09/12/2012 05:06 AM
>> Subject:               Re: 2.7.4 release?
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> On 06/09/12 21:28, Simon Helsen wrote:
>>  > hi everyone,
>>  >
>>  > I was wondering if there is a chance to get a 2.7.4 release soon.
>There
>>  > have been numerous fixes since 2.7.3 and unfortunately, we are not
>> allowed
>>  > to adopt a non-released snapshot. Basic internal testing seems to
>suggest
>>  > 2.7.4 is pretty stable. Does not mean we would not find more bugs,
>but it
>>  > would fit the frequent small service releases. As a non-committer, I
>> don't
>>  > think I can help the process (other than testing)
>>  >
>>  > thanks
>>  >
>>  > Simon
>>  >
>>
>> The changes (post TDB 0.9.3) for optimized and correct transactions are
>> new and really could do with bedding down.  If you could go beyond basic
>> testing that would be helpful so things get raised before a .4 release.
>>
>> Quite a few JIRA have had input in the last week or so and I haven't
>> managed to get a picture of where we are.  The Fuseki as a WAR file
>> (JENA-201) has lots of votes.
>>
>> The deprecations in jena-core could do with some inspection before a
>> release because the point of deprecating them is that they can then get
>> removed.
>>
>> The SDB release cycle is going quite well - and doing a lightweight
>> community "Release Candidate" seems to have been a success.  We have
>> reports, and something has been reported that could do with
>investigation.
>>
>> It would be nice to release LARQ as a post-incubator.
>>
>> Things are busy.
>>
>> I wonder if an RC phase is the best way forward.
>>
>> (all) What things would ideally be done before a RC phase can start?
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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