Andy,

I saw the message. I should have followed up on it.

"Are you going to test pre-release if we start a release process?  We 
have just done a public testing cycle on SDB and it was worked well."

yes. We are already testing recent 2.7.4 snapshots and if there is 
something like a pre-release, I'd kick of another test cycle for sure. The 
only thing I am saying is that we cannot get to the same level of depth 
with an unofficial release because I am limited in my ability to 
propagate. That is not something in my power to change.

"An open source community is about working together for mutual benefit."

Never contested that 

'Jena 2.7.3 was Aug 07.  Less than 2 months."

2 months is pretty long for us and the previous minor releases were much 
faster in succession. Also, time is not that important, but what is in it. 
The number of TDB fixes is very large and we know for a fact that 2.7.3 is 
unusable for us

I guess my e-mail was more to bring the debate around the release to the 
forefront since we have deadlines and an adoption for 2.7.4 is important 
for us. From previous communication, it was just not clear what the plan 
was.

thanks

Simon




From:
Andy Seaborne <[email protected]>
To:
[email protected]
Date:
10/04/2012 03:20 PM
Subject:
Re: 2.7.4 release?



See a message this week:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jena-dev/201209.mbox/%3C50687D0E.7000002%40apache.org%3E


On 04/10/12 17:30, Simon Helsen wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> sorry, I am coming back with this topic, but I don't think the 
discussion
> finished last time. The only thing I can say is that from IBM's point of
> view, we can only ever really deal with releases. We have the capacity 
to
> some preliminary testing with candidates or overnight builds, but they
> will never get the same coverage as to what we can obtain with a 
release.

Your last message was:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jena-dev/201209.mbox/%3COF97EB6EA7.8F8BE448-ON85257A79.004B4D7D-85257A79.004BD00B%40ca.ibm.com%3E


The project makes builds available - it is IBM's choice whether to test 
them or not. No one is suggesting deploying non-releases.

Other users are already giving feedback on development builds; some are 
deploying them in situations that matter to them.  Many users provide 
feedback after releases but before is more valuable.

Are you going to test pre-release if we start a release process?  We 
have just done a public testing cycle on SDB and it was worked well.

An open source community is about working together for mutual benefit.

> So the question remains: what are the 2.7.4 release plans? It has been
> quite a while since 2.7.3 came out.

Jena 2.7.3 was Aug 07.  Less than 2 months.

                 Andy

>
> thanks
>
> Simon
>




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