Ah, great, then my job is done, beyond a bit of README :)

On 27 January 2015 at 17:21, Rob Vesse <[email protected]> wrote:
> Re: the scripting is a use of parameter substitution -
> http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/parameter-substitution.html - the general
> form of which is as follows:
>
> VAR=${VAR:-DEFAULT}
>
> This initialising a variable from the existing value if available and the
> :- says if it is currently undeclared/null use the given default instead
>
> So in the specific example you gave it says honour the users JVM_ARGS
> variable if set in their environment otherwise use -Xmx1200M as the value
>
> Rob
>
> On 27/01/2015 08:27, "Stian Soiland-Reyes" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On 27 January 2015 at 15:23, Andy Seaborne <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> tdbloader is pure java and is included in the fuseki jar.
>>> tdbloader2 has a shell script to drive it.
>>> You can't run either loader on a live database
>>
>>Right. A nice feature (or side-effect?) I found was that Fuseki can
>>pick up live any existing datasets (made by tdloader)  by simply
>>"Creating a new dataset" that has exactly the same name:
>>
>>https://github.com/stain/jena/blob/fuseki2-docker/jena-fuseki2/jena-fuseki
>>-docker/README.md#recognizing-the-dataset-in-fuseki
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> did you mean
>>> java -cp fuseki-server.jar tdb.tdbloader --loc
>>
>>
>>Right - I got this to work, and even added a little shell-script to
>>help with *ttl.gz expansion (as that could get tricky through the
>>shell on the host).
>>
>>See
>>https://github.com/stain/jena/tree/fuseki2-docker/jena-fuseki2/jena-fuseki
>>-docker#data-loading
>>
>>
>>With not much adjustment (usual FUSEKI_HOME/FUSEKI_BASE stuff) this
>>script could work well also in the normal fuseki2 dist?
>>
>>https://github.com/stain/jena/blob/fuseki2-docker/jena-fuseki2/jena-fuseki
>>-docker/load.sh
>>
>>
>>The default is to load all *ttl *rdf.gz etc. in the /staging directory.
>>
>>
>>As tdbloader with just filenames chucks everything into the default
>>graph, I guess the only option to get named graphs is through an
>>assembler file?
>>
>>I didn't use tdbloader2 for now as it will only work with fresh
>>databases (could add confusion to the README).
>>
>>
>>> config.ttl or the UI.
>>
>>I went with just telling people to click the button in the UI, this
>>worked smoothly. :-)
>>
>>I guess it would only be a challenge if you wanted to load many datasets.
>>
>>
>>It would be nice to just add it to config.ttl, but it seems then I
>>have to copy the defaults for "query" endpoints etc?  (Where from?).
>>It would also have to detect if the dataset already exists.
>>
>>
>>Would I get reasonable defaults if I add a minimal config with just
>>DatasetTDB, fuseki:dataset and tdb:location - or do I need to include
>>all of those from the template?
>>
>>
>>The datasets created in the UI seem to live under
>>system-configuration/ rather than in config.ttl
>>-- should such a register-load shell script put things in there
>>instead of config.ttl?
>>
>>Are those UUIDs registered somewhere?
>>
>>
>>
>>>> Q: Should I run the standalone Fuseki or a WAR inside say Tomcat?
>>> Your choice!
>>
>>I'll stick with the standalone then, as it means I get the tdb.loader
>>for free :)
>>
>>
>>>> Q: Are there any memory settings that should be made accessible?
>>> Heap - usually it does not need changing but if you have lots of
>>>datasets it
>>> might.
>>
>>I see - now it is this line:
>>
>>    JVM_ARGS=${JVM_ARGS:--Xmx1200M}
>>
>>Why is this using ":" here? I don't understand that bit. :-)
>>
>>I guess I would need to freshen my sed skills to set the memory limit
>>from a shell variable.
>>
>>
>>So you generally mean.. a high number of datasets? Size of dataset or
>>query doesn't matter much with TDB?
>>
>>
>>>> Q: Is it safe to just stop fuseki-server with Ctrl-C / docker stop? It
>>>> seems to stop a bit too fast, with no log outputs.
>>> Yes - or even "kill -9"
>>
>>Nice! So
>>
>>  docker stop fuseki
>>
>>just works safely.
>>
>>
>>> The distribution has an unversioned file in it IIRC
>>
>>Could you clarify..?
>>
>>apache-jena-2.12.1.tar.gz and jena-fuseki-1.1.1-distribution.tar.gz
>>don't seem to include fuseki2.
>>
>>
>>So I have to (at least until Fuseki 2.0.0 is released) download
>>jena-fuseki-dist from
>>
>>https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/snapshots/org/apache/jena/jen
>>a-fuseki-dist/2.0.0-SNAPSHOT/
>>
>>by finding the timestamp in
>>
>>https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/snapshots/org/apache/jena/jen
>>a-fuseki-dist/2.0.0-SNAPSHOT/maven-metadata.xml
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>Stian Soiland-Reyes
>>Apache Taverna (incubating)
>>http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
>
>
>
>



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Stian Soiland-Reyes
Apache Taverna (incubating)
http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718

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