From general reference
Apache has a code of conduct:
https://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct
Just a couple of points to add to the discussion:
It would be a problem if we believe it is off putting for other people.
I don't think we are at that point but it is something to keep in mind.
On teachers:
The users@ list is about individuals and students are on the list as
individuals, not as class participants. I fear discussion with the
teachers could lead to serious problems - it would only take one large
class, or even not so large class, pointed at users@ to take things to a
whole different level.
At that point, it could become off putting for other people.
Some principles I use:
1/ There is no obligation to answer - we do it because we're being helpful.
2/ We do not do assignments - we can help with understanding semweb and
using Jena.
3/ Minimal, Complete, and Verifiable example - or at least some attempt
to get to one. "It does not work" is not a MCVE.
4/ People need to make an effort, such as respond to requests for better
examples, to attempt to apply suggestions.
Replying with "does not work" 10 minutes after a reply does not show effort.
Andy
On 24/10/16 15:52, A. Soroka wrote:
I take the first bullet to mean some "enforcement" is proposed and the last bullet to suggest that
a "ban" is "possible".
Sorry, I missed that last phrase-- I wouldn't support a ban for that kind of reason. I
take "enforcement" simply to mean that after the same question is asked several
times with good answers ignored, the question can legitimately be ignored. I don't see
anything wrong with that.
I was not pointing out that projects go through phases.
I was pointing out that Jena has been in mature use, including by students on
course projects, for many years. We get phases where we get naive and poorly
asked questions from students. Those phases are more related to course
lifecycles than to Jena lifecycles.
I'm sorry I misunderstood you.
Patient responses, as have been given here, generally work. If they don't then
continued such poor questions can simply go unanswered. I really don't think
there's enough volume of such traffic here as to be a problem.
Dave
I don't think disagreeing on how problematic the kind of traffic about which we
are writing is should stop us from trying new kinds of engagement. In other
words, creating more resources for beginners is good for Jena no matter whether
you think this mailing list question is serious or not.
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A. Soroka
The University of Virginia Library
