Le dim. 8 sept. 2019 à 23:03, Marco Neumann <marco.neum...@gmail.com> a
écrit :

> Romain, if I understand you correctly here, and since you are at the
> beginning of this process I think I would like to see this designed as
> another custom graph in Jena that in its most basic form could also work as
> a stand-alone graph with eventually zero jena dependencies.
>

A bit as a subproject? = Jena would deliver it but not use it?



> said said it sounds like there is some overlap in your effort that could
> benefit significantly from Jena infratructure features directly.
>

Hmm, do you have some pointers handy?



> On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 4:35 PM Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm coming from dev@commons list and was redirected there by Marco, the
> > discussion is available on our archives ([1])
> >
> > Long story short, I'm looking for a core DAG library which is dependency
> > free (~100K is ok for the stack, more will need to bring a lot of value
> > ;)).
> >
> > My need is "simple" but very generic (so shareable) and should be strong
> > (so better if shared and reused instead of coded by app):
> >
> > 1. load/build a graph (DAG actually) model
> > 2. be able to navigate in the model to capture nodes (mainly upstream
> > browsing in my case but downstream will be useful quite quickly)
> > 3. create a new DAG by "mutating" (copy of an immutable model is not an
> > issue) the original graph
> > 4. dump back the newly obtained graph
> >
> > I did a quick prototype at [2] - please ignore the specificity of the
> model
> > loading using JSON-B and modelisation using ports which is likely
> specific
> > to my case (?).
> > The interesting piece of code (core logic) is this class [3] and the
> > findUpStream method usage of the DAG.
> > In terms of logic it is very close to what Spark does when it "pushes
> down"
> > some filter/predicates in a source during a plan computation (that's why
> it
> > is called this way in the PoC).
> >
> > Therefore my question to Jena are:
> >
> > 1. Does it somehow overlap with Jena goals (even if low level)?
> > 2. Can it be extracted in a jena-graph (core would maybe depend on it?)
> > without guava, slf4j implementation (api is ok) and base dependencies?
> > Concretely jena-graph+slf4j-api are ok for me, more wouldn't.
> > 3. Is a graph modelization not RDF specific ok and would it be stable for
> > consumers?
> >
> > [1]
> >
> >
> https://markmail.org/search/?q=graph%20status%20list%3Aorg.apache.commons.dev%2F#query:graph%20status%20list%3Aorg.apache.commons.dev%2F+page:1+mid:pxecs5y3ezmfztbj+state:results
> > [2] https://github.com/rmannibucau/drag
> > [3]
> >
> >
> https://github.com/rmannibucau/drag/blob/master/src/main/java/com/github/rmannibucau/graph/drag/rule/PushdownRule.java
> >
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