Yes.  This works for me as I already have filters that essentially do the
separation proposed pretty well.

Colin A. Gross


On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 9:11 AM Andy Seaborne <a...@apache.org> wrote:

> Now would be a good time to get this done so we can have dev@ for
> discussions.
>
> Please yes/no/etc and when it settles down I'll run a vote.
> When going to infra, we then have a definite PMC agreement to point to,
> not some minority or rogue action.
>
> On 19/11/2019 19:55, aj...@apache.org wrote:
> >
> > Andy, you've given a nice list of potential discussions and others have
> as
> > well. My meta-question is when do we want to switch to tickets for this
> > process? I don't want to smother discussion in process, but I find it
> very
> > hard to follow a multithreaded discussion over email and I much prefer
> > breaking things out early to more specifics.
>
> Splitting the lists will make it easier. I think we switch to tickets
> when there specific activities.  When sorting what the activities are,
> there is benefit in using dev@ so we can see the interactions more
> clearly. With a quieter dev@, sensible [] should mean anyone can see the
> overall activity.  We can change this if it does not work out.
>
> List proposal:
>
> 2 new lists: issues@ (for JIRA) and pr@ (for github traffic).
>
> Reply-to on JIRA becomes a comment (which I think it does at the moment
> - the reply is j...@apache.org)
>
> For pr@, reply-to is dev@ (same as commits@) - PR discussion is done on
> GH so the usual GH controls work for people.  pr@ is more of a safe
> archive.
>
> Using the same names as other projects helps infrequent visitors to
> navigate our lists. "issues" is a common name; there isn't a common name
> for the "pr" that I found - and it's not that common to split out GH.
> (Cassandra have pr@).
>
> If anyone wants to combine issues@and pr@ they can do so with their own
> mail filtering rules.
>
> Routing:
>
> JIRA:
>
> There are bunch of events:
>
> Issue Created
> Issue Updated
> Issue Assigned
> Issue Resolved
> Issue Closed
> Issue Commented
> Issue Comment Edited
> Issue Comment Deleted
> Issue Reopened
> Issue Deleted
> Issue Moved
>
> These are all:
>
>      All Watchers
>      Current Assignee
>      Reporter
>      Single Email Address (dev@jena.apache.org)
>
> I suggest that all go to issues@ and, in addition, "Created" goes to dev@
>
> I think PRs are linked to JIRA by the title JENA-NNNN. We don't need pr
> discussion on JIRA if we have pr@ but it probably isn't a big deal
> because either it's a PR discussion or JIRA discussion, rarely both.
>
> (but please keep the "^JENA-NNNN:" on PRs)
>
> Github: I don't know what's possible.
>
> My ideal is all PR traffic to pr@, and like JIRA, any created PRs
> notices go to dev@.
>
> (There aren't a GH issues for the Apache mirrored projects)
>
>      Andy
>
> On 02/06/2019 13:57, ajs6f wrote:
> > I like the idea of breaking PR discussions off, but if we're going to
> continue to copy PR comments onto Jira tickets it only makes sense if we
> have separate pr@ and issue@ lists. Also, we would have to stop copying
> them onto dev@ (which I would be fine with).
> >
> > Ideally, I would like to see ticket _creation_ cc:ed onto dev@, so that
> any interested parties would be aware without having to set up
> notifications in Jira, but other ticket actions not cc:ed. I'm not sure if
> that's possible with our gear, but I'm sure INFRA can tell us.
> >
> > ajs6f
> >
> >> On May 30, 2019, at 10:42 AM, Andy Seaborne <a...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> The dev@ list can be dominated by github discussions.
> >>
> >> We have feeds from github PRs and JIRA. We could split the list in one
> list per feed to leave the dev@ list for people.
> >>
> >> While you can do this with mail client rules, searching using the
> archives isn't easy.
> >>
> >> Suggestion:
> >> Add email lists for:
> >>
> >> pr@ -- github pull request discussions.
> >> issues@ -- JIRA
> >>
> >> I'm not sure how clever we can be - for example, it would be nice for
> dev@ to get an email for the submission of a pull request, then not the
> discussion, but I don't think that is configurable. (It is all INFRa
> consifuration anyway AFAIK).
> >>
> >> These names are the ones I have seen other projects use.
> >>
> >> Thoughts?
> >> What have you seen work for other projects?
> >>
> >>     Andy
> >>
> >
>

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