On 19 July 2013 07:57, Philippe Mouawad <[email protected]> wrote:
> I disagree about scripting, but I agree on possible requests for additions
> of other jars.
>
> So Ok for not packaging groovy in it.
> But I suggest we add something like this to changes and best - practices:
>
> - For intensive load testing, the recommended scripting language is one
> that implements Compilable. Groovy is one of them, Beanshell, not
> Jacascript  do as of release date.

OK, good idea.

> Regards
> Philippe
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 17, 2013, van Dalen, Andre wrote:
>
>> In my view, most of the time scripting is not really needed (I have not
>> used it for our load-tests ever)
>> most of the time you can get the same result by preparing a csv file
>> (using perl, python, etc) and read that
>> into the variable(s) that would be set by your script. If needed you can
>> put the randomizing step in the script
>> that starts the loadtest before jmeter is called.
>>
>> The example Phillipe gives can be done with standard jmeter without
>> scripting and without using a csv file
>> by placing the array of values into a jmeter variable and picking a random
>> value from that in a regexp extractor
>> for instance.
>>
>> For what it's worth I side with Sebb on this one, it is easy enough to get
>> the Groovy jar when you install
>> jmeter. It is a one-time activity, and before you know it, people will
>> propose adding JRuby, Jython etc :-)
>>
>>         regards, Andre
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Danny Lade [mailto:[email protected] <javascript:;>]
>> Sent: 17 July 2013 08:50
>> To: [email protected] <javascript:;>
>> Subject: AW: Groovy
>>
>>
>> Sorry for my intervention again, but as Philippe wrote, in our experience
>> also there is no way to handle a complex load test without scripting. Yes,
>> we need less scripting, but we need it.
>>
>> And, as I already mentioned, in an external high load environment (take "
>> http://blazemeter.com/"; for example) You cannot  ship Java-Tests or own
>> Java-Plugins to the load servers, but scripts.
>> However, we don't care about integrating groovy, we just need fast running
>> scripts, one or the other way.
>>
>> VG Danny
>>
>> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> > Von: Philippe Mouawad [mailto:[email protected] <javascript:;>]
>> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. Juli 2013 23:14
>> > An: [email protected] <javascript:;>
>> > Betreff: Re: Groovy
>> >
>> > But sebb,
>> > For me, Scripting is not for prototyping in my experience.
>> > In the last 10 Load Testing missions I made recently I always had to
>> > script at some point.
>> > I remember packaging a JAR years ago, it is more intended to
>> > developpers and takes more configuration than scripting.
>> > It is really much easier to script than package a Jar with classes no ?
>> >
>> > Also with syntax coloring we bring a great enhancement on it, so why
>> > not make it efficient by default ?
>> >
>> > Also Groovy+Caching has nearly same performances as classes inside a Jar.
>> >
>> > We should make performances great by default and not rely on users
>> > tune or use the best option, don't you think so ?
>> >
>>
>
>
> --
> Cordialement.
> Philippe Mouawad.

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