Am 03.02.2015 um 13:38 schrieb Philippe Mouawad:
Hi,
Any additional opinions of dev team or users ?
I 'd like to know if I should continue efforts on this or stop it.
I think it would be a nice feature to have a simple report at the end of a jmeter run. Maybe the user should ask for it by specifying a command line parameter like "--report".

If this is integrated in the shell wrapper it could even be a program that is started after the jmeter run. But I don't think users will generally start another program themselves, so we shouldn't hide it too deep.

Regards
 Felix

Thanks
Regards

On Monday, February 2, 2015, Philippe Mouawad <[email protected]>
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On Monday, February 2, 2015, sebb <[email protected]
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:

On 1 February 2015 at 22:41, Philippe Mouawad
<[email protected]> wrote:
On Sunday, February 1, 2015, sebb <[email protected]> wrote:

On 1 February 2015 at 19:31, Philippe Mouawad
<[email protected] <javascript:;>> wrote:
Hi ,
I uploaded a screenshot and new patch code showing what I meant.
I think including it in core should be considered seriously.
If the code reads the CSV file at the end of a test to produce the
HTML file, there is no need for it to be included in the JMeter code
which is used to run tests.
It should be a separate application.

I don't share your opinion sebb.
Having a report ready at end of load test is nowadays a standard, look
at
market tools wether open source or not.
I don't see the problem here, can you give more details ?
The problem is that it adds extra code to the JMeter application which
takes extra memory.

My last implementation only uses memory at end of test not morz during it.


Also, if the user wants to process existing files, it will be easier
to have a standalone application rather than having to start the
JMeter test application and then find the reporting tool.

It is possible with it, just make a plan with 1 debug sampler and put
listener. Report will be generated.

It would be useful if the tool could be used in batch mode to process
a set of CSV files.

Maybe, but I think it's an additional feature. Also having another tool
may lead to what happened to the report package, it seems it was never
used.  But if you implement it it will be ok for me.


It's also likely to be easier for others to contribute additional
reporting tools if they are part of a separate application.
I don't understand this ? how is it easier if it's in jmeter core. If it's
apart I don't support this option.



It should make the coding requirements simpler.
how ?

Having another application( by the way do you mean provided as a tool in
jmeter or third party) means in the first case you need to setup another
tool and in the latter case need to develop your own, or use or pay one.
Of course the code should be included with JMeter.
But it should be a separate tool.

This is the major drawback of JMeter I hear from customers and read
around
the net.
I first though it would not be that easy but it appears we are able to
reuse existing code.
I don't follow.

If you disagree, I think we should wait for other team members their
opinion and/or setup a vote for this.
The main JMeter code should be reserved for setting up and running tests.

IMHO reporting must be part of JMeter, and anyway it is already through
some Listeners , which although not perfect bring useful infos. The aim of
this new listener is:
1/ Allow generation in gui and non gui mode
2/ Have a "sexy" (not yet ) report readable in browser with dynamic
behaviour (zoom, select some samples...)
3/ Allow generation at end of load test
4/ Make it easily customizable as FTL will be a property
5/ Make it extensible in the future







@Felix thanks for review of initial patch.
Regards

On Sunday, February 1, 2015, sebb <[email protected] <javascript:;>>
wrote:
On 31 January 2015 at 13:16, Philippe Mouawad
<[email protected] <javascript:;> <javascript:;>> wrote:
On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Felix Schumacher <
[email protected] <javascript:;> <javascript:;>>
wrote:
Am 30.01.2015 um 13:31 schrieb Philippe Mouawad:

Hi,
I intend to commit a BackendListener client implementation that
computes
APDEX at end of Load Test.
It will take:

     - Acceptable Response Time (http://www.apdex.fr/) T

The link was in french (my french is not very good (really non
existant
:)), but luckily wikipedia had an article about apdex, which I
could
read.
Sorry for the french link some references:
http://www.apdex.org/overview.html

      - Compute F as 4xT but allow customization
     - List of samples taken into account


This listener will compute it during load test and generate an
HTML
file
at
end of test containing it.

This listener could be later enhanced to :

     - Generate equivalent of Aggregate Report
     - Possibly graphs based on chartjs or some other graphing JS
Library
I understand, that apdex is a simple mean to have one metric. As
such I
wonder why we would want to graph it.
In fact my proposal was larger than just APDEX.
What I am proposing is to implement a report generator that at
end of
Test
would compute HTML page with:
- APDEX
- Some graphs like:
- Plot of OK/KO  (http://www.chartjs.org/docs/#doughnut-pie-chart
)
- Request Summary (what's currently in Aggregate Graph)
http://www.chartjs.org/docs/#bar-chart
- Response Time over time (
http://www.chartjs.org/docs/#line-chart)
I think all this should in fact be computed at end of load test
instead
of
during it.
The input of this listener would be the generated CSV file, and at
end of
Test it would read it an compute all this.
In which case it should be a stand-alone app.



If we want to display a graph of apdex values for different
tolerated
times, than we would have to store all values, which would make
the
listener quite heavy on the memory side.

Thoughts ?

How will errors be counted? Sometimes I can cope with errors, as
long as
they are reported fast and sometimes an error would result in a
very
unhappy  consumer.

Good catch, I think only successful samples must be taken into
account.
Error will count only toward total requests (unsatisfied).

Regards
  Felix



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