Hi Felix, My answers below. Regards On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 9:03 PM, Felix Schumacher < [email protected]> wrote:
> Am 10.03.2015 um 22:18 schrieb Philippe Mouawad: > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 8:18 PM, sebb <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On 10 March 2015 at 18:07, Felix Schumacher >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Am 08.03.2015 um 13:47 schrieb sebb: >>>> >>>> On 8 March 2015 at 09:07, Felix Schumacher >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Am 08.03.2015 um 00:26 schrieb sebb: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 7 March 2015 at 17:50, Felix Schumacher >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Am 07.03.2015 um 18:37 schrieb sebb: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 7 March 2015 at 16:24, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Author: fschumacher >>>>>>>>>> Date: Sat Mar 7 16:24:00 2015 >>>>>>>>>> New Revision: 1664885 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1664885 >>>>>>>>>> Log: >>>>>>>>>> Try to make the header as small as possible. It could be that the >>>>>>>>>> apache >>>>>>>>>> ad will get cut off, if the ad uses the full height >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There are other sizes of ad, for example >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/ads/ApacheCon/2015-na-234x60.png >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The 125x125 one was originally chosen for the LHS menu because it >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> more suitable for that orientation. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have put the bannerbar.html into the test pages at >>>>>>>> p.a.o/~fschumacher/jmeter >>>>>>>> While it makes the header use less height, it seems to be >>>>>>>> problematic >>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>> small devices. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is it worse on small devices than banner.html? >>>>>>> If so, why is that? >>>>>>> >>>>>> The square one would fit in a half wide div. The wide one would stand >>>>>> >>>>> out >>> >>>> at >>>>>> the right end and make the page seems bigger, which leads to a >>>>>> >>>>> scrollable >>> >>>> page. >>>>>> >>>>> Only on quite narrow devices. >>>>> >>>> Well, I can live with the result now. I hope to get the menu a bit >>>> >>> smaller >>> >>>> still (on these narrow devices). >>>> >>>> And does it really matter if smaller devices don't display well - >>>>>>> there's generally too much content anyway. >>>>>>> >>>>>> The content is generally ok. But the component reference is obviously >>>>>> a >>>>>> large beast. I think generally we should aim to include small devices >>>>>> >>>>> on >>> >>>> any >>>>>> webpage we provide. >>>>>> >>>>> I meant that there is too much useful content to make it worth trying >>>>> to read it on a small device. >>>>> I did not mean that there is too much content for all devices. >>>>> >>>> I meant to split up the long pages (component_reference, really) into >>>> smaller parts, not to throw content away. >>>> >>>> And I think the doc is quite readable on small devices now. But I may be >>>> biased :) >>>> >>>> I could hide it there or switch to the banner.html. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't think it makes sense to use the square logo on the header >>>>>>> banner. >>>>>>> It wastes space on every page. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One could perhaps revert to using banner.html at the bottom of the >>>>>>> LHS >>>>>>> menu. >>>>>>> >>>>>> That menu gets converted to an top page menu on smaller screen sizes, >>>>>> >>>>> so >>> >>>> I >>>>>> thought that this is not an ideal place either. >>>>>> >>>>>> Or even put the square logo in the LHS for small devices and use the >>>>>>> rectangular logo in the main heading for larger devices. >>>>>>> >>>>>> I have made the twitter div to use one line on smaller devices and >>>>>> snuggle >>>>>> the wide ad below that. We waste a bit space on small devices now, but >>>>>> >>>>> I >>> >>>> think, that is not a problem, since users will have to scroll anyway. >>>>>> >>>>> I think there's still a slight issue with the balance of the page on >>>>> normal devices. >>>>> >>>>> The LHS menu font looks too big to me in comparison with the body text. >>>>> >>>> We could insert another break point for the design, so that the menu >>>> >>> would >>> >>>> be placed above the content on medium devices. On such devices a >>>> >>> horizontal >>> >>>> menu would be nice, I think. >>>> >>>> I don't think that the font for the menu should be made smaller. But it >>>> would be possible to change the width/max-width settings of the two >>>> >>> columns, >>> >>>> so that the LHS gets a bit smaller on narrow devices. >>>> >>> The problem I have is that the LHS menu font looks too big compared >>> with the body text. >>> Is the menu text really more important than the body text? So why is it >>> bigger? >>> The menu is intended for navigation, not information. >>> >>> The large font means that the menu is taller than it needs to be, so >>> requires more vertical scrolling. >>> The width of the menu is fine, though of course if a smaller font were >>> used it could perhaps be made narrower. >>> >>> As an experiment, here is my version of the site with the menu >>> font-size reduced to 80% >>> >>> http://people.apache.org/~sebb/jmeter/index.html >>> >>> I also reduce the menu width; however there are some other widths that >>> also need to be changed. >>> >>> I think my version has a better balance of font sizes between the menu >>> and body text. >>> >>> >>> I agree. I find this version slightly better. >> > What browser and os screen/browser resolution did you test on? On my > ubuntu laptop (1366x768 pixel, 15") the fonts from sebb's version look to > small to me. And my version has the same amount of text on the page as > sebb's version. The only difference here is the number of lines of the > navigation, which can be seen. > 1920 x 1200 > > > Although it is true that doc is readable on small devices now and I find >> that current version is much better than older one. >> >> One thing that I find a bit weird currently is that you tend to touch >> headers expecting for something to happen but nothing does. >> > What do you mean? Are you looking at the small device menu (on top of main > content)? Touching the main menu (or hovering over them) should definitely > present you with the next menu level. On iPhone 5s (IOS 7) it does not. Nothing happens , I only have : About Download Doumentation .... > I found, that sometimes my touches were interpreted as "double touches" > and I was sent right to the link destination. There is obviously space to > improve. > > Felix > > >> >> >> >> Felix >>>> >>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>>> Felix >>>>>> >>>>>> What do you think? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's not worth spending time worrying about making the site look good >>>>>>> on smaller displays. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Modified: >>>>>>>>>> jmeter/trunk/xdocs/css/new-style.css >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Modified: jmeter/trunk/xdocs/css/new-style.css >>>>>>>>>> URL: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/jmeter/trunk/xdocs/css/new- >>> style.css?rev=1664885&r1=1664884&r2=1664885&view=diff >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ============================================================ >>> ================== >>> >>>> --- jmeter/trunk/xdocs/css/new-style.css (original) >>>>>>>>>> +++ jmeter/trunk/xdocs/css/new-style.css Sat Mar 7 16:24:00 2015 >>>>>>>>>> @@ -70,7 +70,11 @@ h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, .title { >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> .banner>iframe { >>>>>>>>>> width: 140px; >>>>>>>>>> - height: 140px; >>>>>>>>>> + height: 130px; >>>>>>>>>> +} >>>>>>>>>> +.banner>iframe>body { >>>>>>>>>> + margin: 0px; >>>>>>>>>> + padding: 0px; >>>>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> body { >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> > -- Cordialement. Philippe Mouawad.
