On 15 March 2016 at 07:51, Philippe Mouawad <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 1:31 AM, sebb <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 14 March 2016 at 22:32, Philippe Mouawad <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > from user point of view, a user does not know attribute names, >> >> But they won't necessarily know the exact name for each attribute >> either, and the order depends on the exact name. >> They are hopefully reasonably common names for the values, but there's >> no standard for the names. >> [Unlike say the names of countries or languages.] >> >> > If I take the french example, alphabetical order seems the best option.
But the same applies - unless you know in advance what the name is, how does it help? For example, the length of a response could be Content Length Response Length Length of Response Count (Bytes) Byte Count etc. > As attribute names are not known, documentation references english labels. > > An alternative option is to always use the English (documentation) sort > order , this way people can refer to it in other languages and select the > options. That would work for me; a bit more tedious to set up initially, but would also handle new attributes better (assuming they were added at the end) > >> >> > So I >> > suppose the best presentation is probably an alphabetical sort , this is >> > how I usually proceed in the Ux is use. >> >> But the problem is that it is Locale-specific. >> >> Further, if we change the translation of any attribute, the order may >> change. >> >> Whereas if we sort by attribute name, the order is fixed across >> languages, and people can get used to where they are. >> >> > On Monday, March 14, 2016, sebb <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> Are there any other opinions on this? >> >> >> >> Only Philippe has commented that he prefers ordering by Locale-specific >> >> text. >> >> >> >> I would prefer ordering by attribute name, as that does not vary when >> >> switching languages. >> >> It's also not very different in the English version (probably because >> >> the attribute names are in English) >> >> >> >> So it's not clear what the order should be. >> >> >> >> Comments please. >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Cordialement. >> > Philippe Mouawad. >> > > > > -- > Cordialement. > Philippe Mouawad.
