On 14/02/2017 20:57, Philippe Mouawad wrote:
On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 9:49 PM, Milamber <[email protected]> wrote:

IMHO, wait 72h to have some feedback or (if no feedback: a lazy consensus)
seems good (72h is the traditional delay is ASF)

For me it's not an official vote, so the 72 h is not necessary right ?

That is not a vote (or a technical vote) but you ask for feedback with a delay (tomorrow and after 24h), so I said the traditional delay is 72h, perhaps that would be good to wait directly 72h.

although we've waited more than a year :-)
But I'll wait :-)



For my opinion about the removing the HC 3.1: yes and no...

The HC4 (in default config) don't react like HC3.1 (for me), I need to set
up this props to my load tests:
http.connection.stalecheck$Boolean=true

httpclient4.retrycount=1
Did you try last nightly build ?

Yes, but always with theses properties.

This should not be necessary anymore.
If it's still necessary then it means there's a problem.

I will try without these props to see if the issue (fake error) continue to occur.


For record, I proposed in the past to set retry to 2 to act like browser,
but the discussion led to saying that it could hide issues, which is true,
but does not mimic Browser behaviour :-)



Sometimes I prefer switch to HC3.1 to avoid this setup...



Yes to change, because HC4 is the future even if some behaviors are
different (and I would like the HTTP/2)
No (a little no) because I'm lazy ;)



On 14/02/2017 19:51, Philippe Mouawad wrote:

Hi,
I'll wait another 24h.
Feedback welcome
Regards


On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 9:05 PM, Philippe Mouawad <
[email protected]> wrote:

Hello,
Unless there is NOGO on this, I'll be committing the patch provided
tomorrow on issue:

     - https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=59038

To recap, we deprecated HC3.1 in 3.0 and announced it would be removed in
3.1 but we didn't remove it.
The only little issue I see in dropping it, is that we didn't deprecate
(by error) SOAP/XML-RPC Request:

     - http://jmeter.apache.org/usermanual/component_reference.
     html#SOAP/XML-RPC_Request

although we wrote:

     - See Building a WebService Test Plan
     <http://jmeter.apache.org/usermanual/build-ws-test-plan.html> for up

     to date way of test SOAP and REST Webservices

But I'm personally in favor of dropping it for 3.2 as the only remaining
issue was the missing Pre-Emptive Basic Auth which has now been fixed in
HC4.

Regards

Philippe

On Monday, January 4, 2016, sebb <[email protected]> wrote:

On 27 December 2015 at 17:39, Philippe Mouawad
<[email protected]> wrote:

Hello,
I think it is time now that we definitely drop HC3.1 support in JMeter.
It hardens maintainability and hides some issues in test cases like Bug
58773 and previously TestCookieManager tests.

I think also that giving too much choice to users hardens the learning

path.

I suggest we start by deprecating in 2.14 the following components:

     - SoapSampler, we should I think deprecate it already in 2.14 as
the
     Soap Template covers its features in a more efficient way
     - HttpHC3Impl in documentation
     - HC3CookieHandler in documentation

OK

And in next version drop:
     - HTTPHC3Impl
     - SoapSampler
     - HTTPSampler2 used by SoapSampler
     - HC3CookieHandler
     - HttpHC3Impl
     - LoopbackHttpClientSocketFactory
     - SlowHttpClientSocketFactory

OK

--
Regards
Philippe



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