sorry guys, too late for me today ... have fun, it'd be good if you could
send a wrap up on the list.

Regards,
Tommaso

Il giorno ven 13 mag 2016 alle ore 18:08 Henry Saputra <
[email protected]> ha scritto:

> Cool, sounds good =)
>
> - Henry
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 6:08 PM, kellen sunderland <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I just wanted to discuss it as a group.  Your approach looks good to me.
> >
> > On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 6:05 PM, Henry Saputra <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Ah sorry, trigger happy
> > >
> > > About logging. Are you proposing to use log4j interface in the code? I
> > > would recommend to use slf4j [1] as facade abstraction.
> > > Then implementation could be done via log4j or logback.
> > >
> > > Love to see API access to Joshua.
> > >
> > > - Henry
> > >
> > > [1] http://www.slf4j.org
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Henry Saputra <
> [email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > About logging. Are you proposing to use log4j interface in the code?
> I
> > > > would recommend to use slf4j [1]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 2:30 PM, kellen sunderland <
> > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Thanks for organizing Lewis,
> > > >>
> > > >> Here's some topics for discussion I've been noting while working
> with
> > > >> Joshua.  None of these are high priority issues for me, but if we
> are
> > > all
> > > >> in agreement on them it might make sense to log them.
> > > >>
> > > >> Boring code convention stuff: Logging with log4j, throw Runtime
> > > Exceptions
> > > >> instead of Typed, remove all system exits (replace with
> > > >> RuntimeExceptions),
> > > >> refactor some large files.
> > > >>
> > > >> Testing: Integrate existing unit tests, provide some good test
> > examples
> > > so
> > > >> others can begin adding more tests.
> > > >>
> > > >> Configuration: We also touched on IoC, CLI args, and configuration
> > > changes
> > > >> that are possible.
> > > >>
> > > >> OO stuff: Joshua is pretty good here, but I would personally prefer
> > more
> > > >> granular interfaces.  I wouldn't advocate radical changes, but
> maybe a
> > > >> little refactoring might make sense to better align with the
> interface
> > > >> segregation principle.
> > > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interface_segregation_principle
> > > >>
> > > >> JNI reliance:  We've found KenLM works really well with Joshua, but
> > > there
> > > >> is one issue with using it.  It requires many JNI calls during
> > decoding
> > > >> and
> > > >> these calls impact GC performance.  In fact when a JNI call happens
> > the
> > > GC
> > > >> throws out any work it may have done and quits until the JNI call
> > > >> completes.  The GC will then resume and start marking objects for
> > > >> collection from scratch.  This is not ideal especially for programs
> > with
> > > >> large heaps (Joshua / Spark).  There's a couple ways we could
> mitigate
> > > >> this
> > > >> and I think they'd all speed up Joshua quite a lot.
> > > >>
> > > >> High level roadmap topics:
> > > >>
> > > >> *  Distributed Decoding is something I'll likely continue working
> on.
> > > >> Theres some obvious things we can do given usage patterns of
> > translation
> > > >> engines that can help us out here (I think).
> > > >> *  Providing a way to optimize Joshua for low-latency,
> low-throughput
> > > >> calls
> > > >> could be interesting for those with near real-time use cases.
> > > Providing a
> > > >> way to optimize for high-latency, high-throughput could be
> interesting
> > > for
> > > >> async/batch use cases.
> > > >> *  The machine learning optimization algorithms could be cleaned up
> a
> > > bit
> > > >> (MERT/MIRA).
> > > >> *  The Vocabulary could probably be replaced with a simpler
> > > implementation
> > > >> (without sacrificing performance).
> > > >>
> > > >> -Kellen
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Lewis John Mcgibbney <
> > > >> [email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Hi Folks,
> > > >> > Kellen, Henri and I are going to get together tomorrow 13th around
> > > >> > lunchtime PST to talk everything Joshua.
> > > >> > Would be great to have others online via GChat if possible.
> > > >> > Let's say around 11am PST for the time being.
> > > >> > See you then folks.
> > > >> > Thanks
> > > >> > Lewis
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > --
> > > >> > *Lewis*
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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