Good words Lewis.

On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 9:26 AM, lewis john mcgibbney <lewi...@apache.org>
wrote:

> Hi Folks,
> In my limited experience at Apache ;)
> I've come to notice that communities and therefore projects far exceed
> their usefulness outside of what current industry or academia is doing.
> Examples are all over the place, but my own experience stems from my
> involvement with the Apache Nutch project. Key inventors of that software
> moved on to Hadoop and goodness knows whatever else, but the current Nutch
> community remains at around ~1K subscribers on out user@ mailing list.
> I've
> personally seen and pushed >15 releases used by countless (1000's) of
> people around the world. The software exists are THE best maintained,
> highest quality, production ready Web search software current available to
> this day.
> Chris' points are well founded, Tomasso's match very appropriately to the
> fact that Joshua is nowhere near a dead project. I acknowledge that no-one
> said it was. The resources available for Joshua are FAR more comprehensive
> than anywhere else I've seen. FAR FAR more comprehensive. Joshua is the
> FIRST toolkit to be made available as a packaged, consumable,
> community-backed software artifact for anyone attempting to get involved
> with machine translation.
> NONE of the NMT software communities even come close to providing new
> software developers with translation packs as Joshua does. They don't even
> come close. AFAIK, all of the people so far working on NMT have kept
> everything proprietary... which is utterly useless for the next person or
> the next academic, etc.
> This highlights the essence and hits at the heart of why a group of us
> shepharded Joshua into the ASF in the first place.
> Believe me, if people are actively discussing a new release on an Apache
> mailing list (or any mailing list for that matter), there is always purpose
> in continuing.
> To bring this back a bit, I will openly state that Matt you have been an
> excellent champion for JHU as well as representing yourself with regards to
> the way you have adopted and displayed a forward thinking, collaborative
> mentality for Joshua.
> If you feel your job is 'done', then I congratulate you.
> Joshua will live on... at Apache.
> Writing software at Apache is not about a competition. It is about writing
> high quality software in a collaborative environment for the public good.
> We achieve this through peer review from people we have probably never met.
> That is called community.
> If you would be gracious enough to stay with the community as a PMC Chair
> then it would be highly appreciated. If you feel at any time that this is
> too much, then let us know. We will be here and we will act when we cross
> that bridge.
> Over and out folks.
> Lewis
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 10:04 PM, <
> dev-digest-h...@joshua.incubator.apache.org> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > From: Matt Post <p...@cs.jhu.edu>
> > To: dev@joshua.incubator.apache.org
> > Cc:
> > Bcc:
> > Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 07:03:58 +0200
> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation (was Re: Path to TLP)
> > Thanks Tommaso. Though, I should say, initial thanks goes to Zhifei Li. I
> > just took it over.
> >
> > I think I can stick around in the capacity Chris suggests. Thanks, all.
> >
> > matt
> >
> >
>



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