Stephen Bannasch wrote:
At this point I'd be a bit disappointed if the jruby project moved to mercurial 
-- I know I can use git easily with jruby now -- either with the existing svn 
repo using git svn or using VVS's mirror at github. I haven't looked into 
whether I can clone a mercurial repo with git yet -- probably doesn't make any 
sense.

When we polled the JRuby committers, about half preferred hg to git and half preferred git to hg. Nobody was married to either. Tom and I don't really care either way. Since Kenai has hg now, we figured that if the remaining pieces fall into place (like Jira), we'd just make the move, since everyone agreed we'd like to be natively on a DSCM. If git and jira arrive at the same time...well, I guess we'll have to arm-wrestle for it. Being a Ruby-related project and considering the fact that most Ruby OSS devs have git and know git now, git probably would have the upper hand.

There is a long (about 12s) delay time to authenticate (on my long-latency 
satellite broadband)  logging into github is about 6s.

I guess I haven't seen this because I don't log out. But it would be good to report. It's possible your account being on SDN is the primary source of the delay, since I imagine they're making a call out to SDN for something or other. github has the luxury of integrating with nobody. FWIW, the rest of the site all seems very snappy, so I wouldn't expect it to be something systemic.

I've heard that kenai will support git as another scm in the future. That's 
great. Supporting bazzar would be nice also.

It's planned, but as I understand it, not scheduled.

I would like to have effective ways to categorize and sequence content from the 
wiki and be able to generate a structured pdf document. In effect a JRuby book.

That would be very nice to have. I'm not sure if it's on Kenai now or planned for the future, but the wiki format on kenai is just mediawiki; presumably it would not be hard to write up a tool using their mediawiki markup library (unreleased, but I think they intend to release it) that can output formatted HTML. From there, you can do whatever you want.

I wonder if someone has come up with a way to combine both a wiki and a 
distributed repository of sample code such that comments/documentation could be 
edited and rendered both locally and on the network.

I looked into that a bit when the rubyspecs test project got started, to hopefully sync between the wiki I set up and the tests themselves. I did not find anything.

Does hg have a local browser similar in function to gitk?

I believe it does, but I know about as much about hg as I do about git...very little. I'm not much of a power user.

Ultimately I think the biggest benefit to moving to Kenai will be the facts that it's a single unified site (Codehaus's various tools are somewhat scattered), that we Sun JRubyists are very familiar to the Kenai devs (Nick Sieger is Kenai's lead dev), and hosting JRuby on a project site running JRuby is pretty delicious. The decisions about hg versus git are pretty minor.

- Charlie

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