Hi Michael,

Thank you for the updated KIP. I have few comments/questions:

1. We already have the "--state" option in the command line tool which can
be used
with "--describe" and we will have "--states" which can be used with
"--list". I feel this
is going to be confusing for users. I wonder if we could combine both cases
to reduce
the confusion but I am not sure it would be better. What do you think?

2. Regarding the output of the command line when "--states" is used, I
wonder if it
wouldn't be better to use a proper table with a header. We could use only
when
filters such as "--states" are used.

Best,
David

On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 10:44 PM Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Mickael,
>
> Can you please specify what the result is when a newer client tries to use
> this on an older broker?  Does that result in an
> UnsupportedVersionException?
>
> I would prefer an Optional in the Java API so that “show all groups” can
> be EMPTY.
>
> best,
> Colin
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2020, at 07:53, Mickael Maison wrote:
> > Hi David,
> >
> > Did that answer your questions? or do you have any further feedback?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 4:11 PM Mickael Maison <mickael.mai...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi David,
> > >
> > > Thanks for taking a look.
> > > 1) Yes, updated
> > >
> > > 2) I had not considered that but indeed this would be useful if the
> > > request contained multiple states and would avoid doing another call.
> > > The ListGroups response already includes the group ProtocolType, so I
> > > guess we could add the State as well. The response will still be
> > > significantly smaller than DescribeGroups. With this change, one thing
> > > to note is that having Describe on the Cluster resource will allow
> > > retrieving the state of all groups. Currently retrieving the state of
> > > a group requires Describe on the Group.
> > >
> > > 3) Yes if ListGroups response includes the state, it makes sense to
> > > expose it via the command line tool and the AdminClient. With
> > > ConsumerGroupCommand, to avoid compatibility issues we can only print
> > > states when the --states flag is specified.
> > >
> > > I've updated the KIP accordingly.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 12:20 PM David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Michael,
> > > >
> > > > Please, excuse me for my late feedback. I've got a few
> questions/comments
> > > > while reviewing the KIP.
> > > >
> > > > 1. I would suggest to clearly state in the documentation of the
> state field
> > > > that omitting it or providing an empty list means "all".
> > > >
> > > > 2. Have you considered including the state in the response? The API
> allows
> > > > to search for multiple states so it could be
> > > > convenient to have the state in the response to let the user
> differentiate
> > > > the groups.
> > > >
> > > > 3. If 2. makes sense, I would suggest to also include it in the
> information
> > > > printed out by the ConsumerGroupCommand tool. Putting
> > > > myself in the shoes of an operator, I would like to see the state of
> each
> > > > group if I select specific states. Perhaps we could
> > > > use a table instead of the simple list used today. What do you think?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the KIP!
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > David
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 12:40 PM Mickael Maison <
> mickael.mai...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > If there's no more feedback, I'll open a vote in the next few days.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 4:27 PM Mickael Maison <
> mickael.mai...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Tom,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for taking a look at the KIP!
> > > > > > You are right, even if we serialize the field as a String, we
> should
> > > > > > use ConsumerGroupState in the API.
> > > > > > As suggested, I've also updated the API so a list of states is
> specified.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 10:03 AM Tom Bentley <
> tbent...@redhat.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Mickael,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for the KIP.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The use of String to represent the desired state in the API
> seems less
> > > > > > > typesafe than would be ideal. Is there a reason not to use the
> existing
> > > > > > > ConsumerGroupState enum (even if the state is serialized as a
> String)?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > While you say that the list-of-names result from
> listConsumerGroups is
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > reason not to support supplying a set of desired states I
> don't find
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > argument entirely convincing. Sure, if the results are going
> to be
> > > > > shown to
> > > > > > > a user then it would be ambiguous and multiple queries would be
> > > > > needed. But
> > > > > > > it seems quite possible that the returned list of groups will
> > > > > immediately
> > > > > > > be used in a describeConsumerGroups query (for example, so
> show a user
> > > > > > > additional information about the groups of interest, for
> example). In
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > case the grouping by state could be done on the descriptions,
> and some
> > > > > RPCs
> > > > > > > could be avoided. It would also avoid the race inherent in
> making
> > > > > multiple
> > > > > > > listConsumerGroups requests. So supporting a set of states
> isn't
> > > > > entirely
> > > > > > > worthless and it wouldn't really add very much complexity.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kind regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Tom
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 5:54 PM Mickael Maison <
> > > > > mickael.mai...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Bump
> > > > > > > > Now that the rush for 2.4.0 is ending I hope to get some
> feedback
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 5:44 PM Mickael Maison <
> > > > > mickael.mai...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I have created a KIP to allow listing groups per state:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-518%3A+Allow+listing+consumer+groups+per+state
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Have a look and let me know what you think.
> > > > > > > > > Thank you
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> >
>

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