Hi Jun,

Good catch!
The new configuration is indeed compression.zstd.level instead of
compression.snappy.level. I've updated the KIP.

Thanks,
Mickael

On Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 7:38 PM Jun Rao <j...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
>
> Hi, Mickael,
>
> Thanks for the updated KIP.
>
> There is a typo. The KIP says that it adds a new option
> compression.snappy.level,
> but later says that Snappy is excluded.
>
> Otherwise, the changes look good to me.
>
> Jun
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 6:40 AM Mickael Maison <mickael.mai...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Divij,
> >
> > Thanks for bringing that point. After reading KIP-984, I don't think
> > it supersedes KIP-390/KIP-780. Being able to tune the built-in codecs
> > would directly benefit many users. It may also cover some scenarios
> > that motivated KIP-984 without requiring users to write a custom
> > codec.
> > I've not commented in the KIP-984 thread yet but at the moment it
> > seems very light on details (no proposed API for codecs, no
> > explanations of error scenarios if clients or brokers don't have
> > compatible codecs), including the motivation which is important when
> > exposing new APIs. On the other hand, KIP-390/KIP-780 have much more
> > details with benchmarks to support the motivation.
> >
> > In my opinion starting with the compression level (KIP-390) is a good
> > first step and I think we should focus on that and deliver it. I
> > believe one of the reasons KIP-780 wasn't voted is because we never
> > delivered KIP-390 and nobody was keen on building a KIP on top of
> > another undelivered KIP.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mickael
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 12:27 PM Divij Vaidya <divijvaidy...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey Mickael
> > >
> > > Since this KIP was written, we have a new proposal to make the
> > compression
> > > completely pluggable
> > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-984%3A+Add+pluggable+compression+interface+to+Kafka
> > .
> > > If we implement that KIP, would it supersede the need for adding fine
> > grain
> > > compression controls in Kafka?
> > >
> > > It might be beneficial to have a joint proposal of these two KIPs which
> > may
> > > satisfy both use cases.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Divij Vaidya
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 11:14 AM Mickael Maison <mickael.mai...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I'm resurrecting this old thread as this KIP would be a nice
> > > > improvement and almost 3 years later the PR for this KIP has still not
> > > > been merged!
> > > >
> > > > The reason is that during reviews we noticed the proposed
> > > > configuration, compression.level, was not easy to use as each codec
> > > > has its own valid range of levels [0].
> > > >
> > > > As proposed by Jun in the PR [1], I updated the KIP to use
> > > > compression.<codec>.level configurations instead of a single
> > > > compression.level setting. This syntax would also line up with the
> > > > proposal to add per-codec configuration options from KIP-780 [2]
> > > > (still to be voted). I moved the original proposal to the rejected
> > > > section.
> > > >
> > > > I've put the original voters and KIP author on CC. Let me know if you
> > > > have any feedback.
> > > >
> > > > 0: https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/10826
> > > > 1: https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/10826#issuecomment-1795952612
> > > > 2:
> > > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-780%3A+Support+fine-grained+compression+options
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Mickael
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 10:00 AM Dongjin Lee <dong...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > This KIP is now passed with:
> > > > >
> > > > > - binding: +3 (Ismael, Tom, Konstantine)
> > > > > - non-binding: +1 (Ryanne)
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks again to all the supporters. I also updated the KIP by moving
> > the
> > > > > compression buffer option into the 'Future Works' section, as Ismael
> > > > > proposed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > Dongjin
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 3:03 AM Konstantine Karantasis
> > > > > <konstant...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Makes sense. Looks like a good improvement. Thanks for including
> > the
> > > > > > evaluation in the proposal Dongjin.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > +1 (binding)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Konstantine
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 6:59 PM Dongjin Lee <dong...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks Ismel, Tom and Ryanne,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am now updating the KIP about the further works. Sure, You
> > won't be
> > > > > > > disappointed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As of Present:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - binding: +2 (Ismael, Tom)
> > > > > > > - non-binding: +1 (Ryanne)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anyone else?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > Dongjin
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 2:03 AM Tom Bentley <tbent...@redhat.com
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Dongjin,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks for the KIP, +1 (binding).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kind regards,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Tom
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 5:16 PM Ismael Juma <ism...@juma.me.uk>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm +1 on the proposed change. As I stated in the discuss
> > > > thread, I
> > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > > think we should rule out the buffer size config, but we could
> > > > list
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > future work vs rejected alternatives.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ismael
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 2:37 PM Dongjin Lee <
> > dong...@apache.org>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I'd like to open a voting thread for KIP-390: Support
> > > > Compression
> > > > > > > Level
> > > > > > > > > > (rebooted):
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-390%3A+Support+Compression+Level
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > Dongjin
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > *Dongjin Lee*
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > *A hitchhiker in the mathematical world.*
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > <https://github.com/dongjinleekr>keybase:
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> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > *Dongjin Lee*
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *A hitchhiker in the mathematical world.*
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > *Dongjin Lee*
> > > > >
> > > > > *A hitchhiker in the mathematical world.*
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> >

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