Hi Andrew, This is exactly the philosophy behind this KIP. To highlight cases like KIP-932.
Best, ------------------ Josep Prat Open Source Engineering Director, Aiven josep.p...@aiven.io | +491715557497 | aiven.io Aiven Deutschland GmbH Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa, Hannu Valtonen, Anna Richardson, Kenne Chen Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B On Fri, Nov 8, 2024, 19:02 Andrew Schofield < andrew_schofield_j...@outlook.com> wrote: > Hi Colin, > I think there is perhaps a difference for the very largest KIPs. "In > development" means that there's some code merged but there's nothing useful > for people except those doing the development. "Experimental" means that > there's enough useful code merged that interested people can experiment > with it. For KIP-932, we would have been "In development" for 3.9, and > we'll be "Experimental" for 4.0, assuming this KIP is voted in time. It > will not be in "Preview" for 4.0 because it's perhaps 80% code complete, > the APIs might change yet and we have performance optimisation to do before > we want widespread use apart from people who are not interested in this > feature. I know there will be some of those keen to try it in 4.0. We'll > aim for "Preview" in 4.1. > > Thanks, > Andrew > ________________________________________ > From: Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> > Sent: 07 November 2024 23:31 > To: dev@kafka.apache.org <dev@kafka.apache.org> > Subject: Re: [VOTE] KIP-1081: Graduation Steps for KIPs > > Hi Josep, > > Continuing the discussion from the other thread: I'm still not 100% > convinced that we need a distinction between "in development" and > "experimental." In both cases, end-users can't make use of the feature. So > why not condense them into one step? > > With regard to "preview", I think "use in production: maybe" doesn't give > very clear guidance. Is it better to just say no or "not recommended"? Or > someone otherwise indicate that preview is mostly about testing the feature. > > best, > Colin > > > On Wed, Nov 6, 2024, at 02:27, Josep Prat wrote: > > Hi all, > > The discussion about graduation steps for KIPs has now stabilized and I'd > > like to start a vote for it. Here you can find the KIP: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/mYn9Eg > > > > Thanks, > > -- > > [image: Aiven] <https://www.aiven.io/> > > > > *Josep Prat* > > Open Source Engineering Director, *Aiven* > > josep.p...@aiven.io | +491715557497 > > aiven.io <https://www.aiven.io/> | < > https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud> > > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/> < > https://twitter.com/aiven_io> > > *Aiven Deutschland GmbH* > > Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin > > Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa, Hannu Valtonen, > > Anna Richardson, Kenneth Chen > > Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B >