Hi David, KIP-1073 I mentioned in my previous email has now passed the voting so it does not need an exceptional extension anymore. Can we please include it in the release plan?
Thank you. Regards, Tina On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 3:04 PM Gantigmaa Selenge <gsele...@redhat.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Can I also please request an exceptional extension for KIP-1073 [1] which > allows getting fenced brokers via AdminClient. This is particularly > important when scaling down a KRaft cluster, because brokers need to be > unregistered first but currently there is no way to list the brokers in > order to unregister once they are shut down/fenced. > > This KIP has been open for voting for over a month and has currently 2 > binding +1 and 1 non binding +1 [2]. I also have raised a draft PR for the > implementation [3]. > > Since it's missing just one more binding +1 and the implementation is > ready for review, it would be great to include it in 4.0.0. > > [1] > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1073%3A+Return+fenced+brokers+in+DescribeCluster+response > [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/zm5kk9st54rj6t5pw9v1dnxhk64mho4m > [3] https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17524 > > Regards, > Tina > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 12:14 PM Luke Chen <show...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Divij, >> >> I agree we _should_ include it into v4.0.0 to make the kafka default value >> more reasonable, instead of doing it until v5.0.0. >> What do you think, @David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io> ? >> >> Thanks. >> Luke >> >> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 7:01 PM Divij Vaidya <divijvaidy...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Hey David >> > >> > Can I please request an exceptional extension for KIP-1030 [1] which >> aims >> > to change configuration defaults and add some new constraints for our >> > configuration? Since these are backward incompatible changes, if they >> don't >> > go out in 4.0, the earliest we could release them would be the next >> major >> > version. >> > >> > I understand that the KIP was filed last minute very close to the >> freeze. >> > Given the benefit to operational load of Kafka maintenance this KIP >> could >> > have, I would request to consider this KIP for 4.0 even after the >> freeze. >> > >> > [1] >> > >> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Divij Vaidya >> > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 3:13 PM David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.invalid >> > >> > wrote: >> > >> > > Hi all, >> > > >> > > This is a friendly reminder that the KIP freeze is on 20th November >> 2024, >> > > one week from today. >> > > >> > > Best, >> > > David >> > > >> > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 5:09 AM Luke Chen <show...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > > Hi Kamal, >> > > > >> > > > Just added them in to the release plan. >> > > > >> > > > Thanks. >> > > > Luke >> > > > >> > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 11:11 AM Kamal Chandraprakash < >> > > > kamal.chandraprak...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > Hi Luke, >> > > > > >> > > > > Please add the KIP-1058 and KIP-1105 to the release plan. >> > > > > KIP-1058 is accepted and PRs are ready. >> > > > > KIP-1105 is a minor one, and will open a voting thread soon. >> > > > > >> > > > > Thanks, >> > > > > Kamal >> > > > > >> > > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 7:28 AM Luke Chen <show...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > > Hi Alyssa, >> > > > > > >> > > > > > I've added KIP-966 into the release plan. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks. >> > > > > > Luke >> > > > > > >> > > > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 3:54 AM Alyssa Huang >> > > > <ahu...@confluent.io.invalid >> > > > > > >> > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks David for being the release manager for 4.0! >> > > > > > > I noticed the release plan >> > > > > > > < >> > > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0> >> > > > > > > does >> > > > > > > not yet have KIP-996 (Pre-Vote) listed, can I edit the page to >> > add >> > > > it? >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Best, >> > > > > > > Alyssa >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 11:36 AM Colin McCabe < >> > cmcc...@apache.org> >> > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hi TengYao Chi, >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The KIP freeze for Apache Kafka 4.0 is. November 20th. So if >> > > > KIP-1092 >> > > > > > has >> > > > > > > > been accepted already, it should make it into 4.0 without >> any >> > > > further >> > > > > > > > discussion (assuming the code is ready by feature freeze.) >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Cheers, >> > > > > > > > Colin >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2024, at 20:32, TengYao Chi wrote: >> > > > > > > > > Hi David, >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I would like to request the inclusion of KIP-1092 in the >> 4.0 >> > > > > release >> > > > > > > > plan. >> > > > > > > > > This KIP is newly accepted, and I believe it will bring >> > > valuable >> > > > > > > > > enhancements for both the Consumer and Kafka Streams >> > > components. >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thank you for considering this addition. >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Best, >> > > > > > > > > TengYao >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> 於 2024年10月11日 週五 >> > 上午12:22寫道： >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Yes (although I don't believe there's a JIRA for that >> > > > specifically >> > > > > > > yet.) >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> best, >> > > > > > > > >> Colin >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 09:11, David Jacot wrote: >> > > > > > > > >> > Hi Colin, >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > Thanks. That seems perfect. Does it include removing >> > > > --zookeeper >> > > > > > > from >> > > > > > > > the >> > > > > > > > >> > command line tools (e.g. kafka-configs)? >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > Best, >> > > > > > > > >> > David >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 6:06 PM Colin McCabe < >> > > > > cmcc...@apache.org> >> > > > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> Hi David & Luke, >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> We have been using >> > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-17611 >> > > > > > > > as >> > > > > > > > >> >> the umbrella JIRA for ZK removal tasks. Progress has >> > been >> > > > > pretty >> > > > > > > > >> rapid, I >> > > > > > > > >> >> do think we will get there by January. (Well hopefully >> > even >> > > > > > earlier >> > > > > > > > :) >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> best, >> > > > > > > > >> >> Colin >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 05:55, David Jacot wrote: >> > > > > > > > >> >> > Hi Luke, >> > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > That's a good point. I think that we should try to >> > stick >> > > to >> > > > > the >> > > > > > > > dates >> > > > > > > > >> >> > though. In my opinion, we should ensure that ZK and >> all >> > > the >> > > > > > > related >> > > > > > > > >> >> public >> > > > > > > > >> >> > facing apis are gone in 4.0 by code freeze. The >> > simplest >> > > > way >> > > > > > > would >> > > > > > > > be >> > > > > > > > >> to >> > > > > > > > >> >> > have an epic for the removal with all the related >> > tasks. >> > > We >> > > > > can >> > > > > > > > then >> > > > > > > > >> mark >> > > > > > > > >> >> > it as a blocker for 4.0. We may already have one. >> Let >> > me >> > > > > search >> > > > > > > > >> around. >> > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > Best, >> > > > > > > > >> >> > David >> > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 2:43 PM Luke Chen < >> > > > show...@gmail.com >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> Hi David, >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> The release plan looks good to me. >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> But since the 4.0 release is a release without ZK, >> I'm >> > > > > > wondering >> > > > > > > > if >> > > > > > > > >> we >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> should list some release criteria for it? >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> The Problem I can imagine is like, when the code >> > freeze >> > > > date >> > > > > > is >> > > > > > > > >> reached, >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> but there are still many ZK removal tasks open, >> what >> > > > should >> > > > > we >> > > > > > > do >> > > > > > > > >> with >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> them? We can remove the rest of codes in later >> > releases, >> > > > but >> > > > > > if >> > > > > > > > there >> > > > > > > > >> >> are >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> still some public APIs related to ZK open for >> users to >> > > > use, >> > > > > is >> > > > > > > > that >> > > > > > > > >> >> still >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> OK to release 4.0? Ex: The `--zookeeper` option in >> > > > > > > > kafka-configs.sh? >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> Instead of only using time-based management in >> v4.0, >> > I'm >> > > > > > > > suggesting >> > > > > > > > >> we >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> should list some "must-do" tasks and track them >> when >> > > > > milestone >> > > > > > > > date >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> approaches. And we can discuss with the community >> if >> > > there >> > > > > are >> > > > > > > > some >> > > > > > > > >> >> delayed >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> tasks. Does that make sense? >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> Thanks. >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> Luke >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 9:29 PM David Jacot >> > > > > > > > >> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid >> > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> wrote: >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > Hi all, >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > I have drafted the release plan for Apache Kafka >> > > 4.0.0: >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 >> > > . >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > Please take a look and let me know what you >> think. >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > I would also appreciate it if you could review >> the >> > > list >> > > > of >> > > > > > > KIPs >> > > > > > > > >> that >> > > > > > > > >> >> we >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > will ship in this release. I took the list from >> the >> > > > > approved >> > > > > > > > list >> > > > > > > > >> in >> > > > > > > > >> >> the >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > wiki but I am pretty sure that the list is not >> > > accurate. >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > Best, >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > Davud >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 5:02 AM Luke Chen < >> > > > > > show...@gmail.com> >> > > > > > > > >> wrote: >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > +1 from me. >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > Since v4.0 will be a huge change release, I'm >> not >> > > sure >> > > > > if >> > > > > > > you >> > > > > > > > >> need >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > another >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > person (vice release manager?) to help on >> > releasing >> > > > > tasks. >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > If so, I'm willing to help. >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > Thanks. >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > Luke >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 1:33 AM Colin McCabe < >> > > > > > > > cmcc...@apache.org >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> wrote: >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > +1. Thanks, David. >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > best, >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > Colin >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, at 10:11, Chris Egerton >> > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > Thanks David! +1 >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, 13:07 José Armando >> > García >> > > > > Sancio >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > <jsan...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote: >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> +1, thanks for volunteering David! >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 11:56 AM David >> > Arthur < >> > > > > > > > >> >> mum...@gmail.com> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > +1, thanks David! >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 11:48 AM Satish >> > > > Duggana < >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> satish.dugg...@gmail.com> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > wrote: >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > +1 >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > Thanks David for volunteering! >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > On Mon, 23 Sept 2024 at 19:27, Lianet >> M. >> > < >> > > > > > > > >> >> liane...@gmail.com> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > +1 >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > Thanks David! >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, 9:54 a.m. >> Justine >> > > > > Olshan >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > <jols...@confluent.io.invalid> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > > +1 and thanks! >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 6:36 AM >> > > Chia-Ping >> > > > > > Tsai >> > > > > > > < >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > chia7...@gmail.com >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > +1 and thanks David for >> > volunteering! 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