Updated KIP to reflect deprecation in 4.2 and removal in the next major release. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=373886192
Thanks, ~ Rajani On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 9:23 AM Rajani Karuturi <rajanikarut...@gmail.com> wrote: > ok, agree on the deprecation cycle. I will mark BrokerNotFoundException as > deprecated and raise a PR which can be merged to master for the next 4.x > release. > How do we handle other deprecated methods from the exception handlers? > Should I raise a PR and keep it unmerged until the 5.x release cycle > starts? > > Thanks, > ~ Rajani > > > On Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 11:01 PM Chia-Ping Tsai <chia7...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > there is also no damage if we only deprecate it for now, and wait for >> 5.0 release to remove it. >> >> agreed. Keeping it in 4.x won't burn out the kafka server, so let's follow >> the deprecation cycle. >> >> Matthias J. Sax <mj...@apache.org> 於 2025年7月18日 週五 上午12:17寫道: >> >> > Thanks for the KIP Rajani. >> > >> > `BrokerNotFoundException` is unused for a long time, and I am happy to >> > get rid of it. >> > >> > However, I am not sure, if we can remove it directly -- at least, that >> > would not be regular protocol. We usually first deprecate >> > interfaces/classes/methods we want to remove, and remove them only in >> > the next major release (if they are deprecated for at least 3 releases / >> > 1 year). >> > >> > Given that `BrokerNotFoundException` is unused for a very long time, we >> > could make an exception and remove directly, but on the other hand, >> > there is also no damage if we only deprecate it for now, and wait for >> > 5.0 release to remove it. >> > >> > Curious to hear from others what they thing about this. >> > >> > >> > For the other methods from the exception handlers you list on the KIP, >> > all these are already deprecated. However, we could not remove them with >> > 4.0 release, because they did not meet the 3-release/1-year grace period >> > for removal. Thus, we can only remove them with 5.0 release (we don't >> > need a KIP for this, as the removal is implicitly approved with the KIPs >> > which deprecated these methods). >> > >> > >> > -Matthias >> > >> > On 7/16/25 2:36 AM, Rajani Karuturi wrote: >> > > Hi All, >> > > >> > > I would like to start a discussion for KIP-1195( >> > > >> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=373886192 >> > ) >> > > >> > > Over time, certain exceptions and methods within the Kafka Streams >> > > exception handling interfaces have been deprecated in favor of newer, >> > more >> > > comprehensive alternatives. Retaining these deprecated elements can >> lead >> > to >> > > confusion, and complicates future development and maintenance. This >> KIP >> > > proposes the removal of these specific deprecated exceptions and >> methods >> > to >> > > streamline the API and improve code clarity. >> > > >> > > Thanks, >> > > ~ Rajani >> > > >> > >> > >> >