Hi Andrew,
Thanks for the suggestions.

Regarding the first point, the KIP has been updated to include a new
subsection that talks about control records, as well as the compacted
records.
Regarding the second point, I personally resonate more with
DeliveryCompleteCount. The schemas in the KIP have also been updated
accordingly.

Thanks,
Chirag

On Tue, Oct 14, 2025 at 6:45 PM Andrew Schofield <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi Chirag,
> Thanks for the KIP. I have a few comments.
>
> AS1: The calculation of the lag needs to take into account offsets which
> are
> not occupied by records, such as when they’ve been removed due to
> compaction.
> Also, the offsets which correspond to control records need to be taken
> into account.
> Please update the text to make this clear.
>
> AS2: The name InFlightTerminalRecords in the schemas seems a bit strange
> to me. What you are doing is calculating the offsets after the SPSO for
> which
> delivery is complete, either because the records are acknowledged or
> archived,
> or because they are control records, or because the offsets do not
> correspond to
> records at all. Personally, I only think of the in-flight records as being
> those
> between the SPSO and the SPEO which have one of the delivery states,
> not those which never did.
>
> I’ve been very careful to exclude the SPEO from the external interfaces,
> because
> one day I expect to change the code so that the in-flight records are
> sparse
> and the distance between the SPSO and the SPEO can be much greater.
> The concept of lag in this KIP needs to be flexible enough to accommodate
> this.
>
> I wonder whether a name like DeliveryCompleteCount or
> DeliveryCompleteRecords
> instead of InFlightTerminalRecords would be better. This is the number of
> offsets
> after the SPSO for which the records have completed delivery, either
> because they’re
> in a terminal state, or because no delivery is required. Wdyt?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Andrew
>
> > On 9 Oct 2025, at 14:43, CHIRAG WADHWA <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > I'd like to start the discussion for KIP-1226: Introducing Share
> Partition
> > Lag Persistence and Retrieval.
> >
> > KIP Wiki:
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1226:+Introducing+Share+Partition+Lag+Persistence+and+Retrieval
> >
> > Regards,
> > Chirag Wadhwa
>
>

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