hi Gaurav

I'm still trying to understand the necessity. The "short" type is a kind of
spec, so I don't think we will make breaking change to it.

Best,
Chia-Ping





Gaurav Narula <[email protected]> 於 2026年7月18日週六 下午8:33寫道:

> Hi Matthias,
>
> Thank you for your reply.
>
> Consider a scenario where a KIP author wants to propose a change which
> involves
> new Request/Response types and a new Metadata Record type. As you rightly
> mentioned, the author doesn't need to pick specific values in the KIP but
> if
> they are to prototype their work in their fork they do need to pick one.
>
> This is where the prototyper has to make a careful choice. If they pick
> the next
> available apiKey, they run the risk of running into issues when the value
> they
> picked is claimed by another implementation that's merged first upstream,
> specially when the prototype is deployed. Even if they bump the apiKey
> after a
> rebase, safely rolling out changes in such a scenario would be hard as
> existing
> brokers/controllers would have a different mapping for the apiKeys
> compared to
> the new ones.
>
> A workaround for this is selecting a high enough apiKey value that is
> unlikely
> to be used in the foreseeable future. My proposal formalises that to
> reserve
> some values for private use. This also ensures that future KIPs that
> propose any
> changes to how apiKeys are used take that into account.
>
> Regards,
> Gaurav
>
>
> > On 17 Jul 2026, at 21:25, Matthias J. Sax <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Gaurav,
> >
> > I am not sure if I fully understand the motivation of the KIP. You are
> saying
> >
> >> However, contributors run the risk of adopting an apKey that is
> subsequently claimed by another proposal while they prototype their work.
> >
> > Can you elaborate? Sure, if two KIPs are in-flight in parallel, two KIPs
> might not know the available API keys yet, but PRs are merged one after
> each other, and whoever comes last would update the code and KIP
> accordingly. Most KIPs don't even specify the concrete API key number to
> begin with, as it's subject to "availability" when the corresponding PR
> gets merged.
> >
> > This approach did work in the past, so I am not sure if there is an
> actual problem to be solved, which would require your proposal? Maybe I am
> missing something.
> >
> > -Matthias
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gaurav Narula <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> > Reply-To: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> > Date: Thursday, July 16, 2026 at 8:39 AM
> > To: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> > Subject: [DISCUSS] KIP-1367: Reserve apiKey values for private use
> >
> >
> > Hi Everyone!
> >
> >
> > I’d like to start a discussion on a KIP for reserving apiKey values for
> private use.
> >
> >
> > More details at:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/spaces/KAFKA/pages/440304597/KIP-1367+Reserve+apiKey+values+for+private+use
> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/spaces/KAFKA/pages/440304597/KIP-1367+Reserve+apiKey+values+for+private+use
> >
> >
> >
> > Looking forward to your comments!
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Gaurav Narula
> >
> >
>
>

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