Also can we migrate svn repo to git repo? This will help us to fix
occasional  doc changes/bug fixes through github PR.

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 4:04 AM, Guozhang Wang <wangg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Gwen: I remembered it wrong. We would not need another round of voting.
>
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Gwen Shapira <g...@confluent.io> wrote:
>
> > Looking back at this thread, the +1 mention "same repo", so I'm not sure
> a
> > new vote is required.
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Guozhang Wang <wangg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > So I think we have two different approaches here. The original proposal
> > > from Aseem is to move website from SVN to a separate Git repo, and
> hence
> > > have separate commits on code / doc changes. For that we have
> accumulated
> > > enough binging +1s to move on; Gwen's proposal is to move website into
> > the
> > > same repo under a different folder. If people feel they prefer this
> over
> > > the previous approach I would like to call for another round of voting.
> > >
> > > Guozhang
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Ashish <paliwalash...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > +1 to what Gwen has suggested. This is what we follow in Flume.
> > > >
> > > > All the latest doc changes are in git, once ready you move changes to
> > > > svn to update website.
> > > > The only catch is, when you need to update specific changes to
> website
> > > > outside release cycle, need to be a bit careful :)
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Gwen Shapira <g...@confluent.io>
> > wrote:
> > > > > Yeah, so the way this works in few other projects I worked on is:
> > > > >
> > > > > * The code repo has a /docs directory with the latest revision of
> the
> > > > docs
> > > > > (not multiple versions, just one that matches the latest state of
> > code)
> > > > > * When you submit a patch that requires doc modification, you
> modify
> > > all
> > > > > relevant files in same patch and they get reviewed and committed
> > > together
> > > > > (ideally)
> > > > > * When we release, we copy the docs matching the release and commit
> > to
> > > > SVN
> > > > > website. We also do this occasionally to fix bugs in earlier docs.
> > > > > * Release artifacts include a copy of the docs
> > > > >
> > > > > Nice to have:
> > > > > * Docs are in Asciidoc and build generates the HTML. Asciidoc is
> > easier
> > > > to
> > > > > edit and review.
> > > > >
> > > > > I suggest a similar process for Kafka.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Ismael Juma <ism...@juma.me.uk>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> I should clarify: it's not possible unless we add an additional
> step
> > > > that
> > > > >> moves the docs from the code repo to the website repo.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Ismael
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Ismael Juma <ism...@juma.me.uk>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Hi all,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > It looks like it's not feasible to update the code and website
> in
> > > the
> > > > >> same
> > > > >> > commit given existing limitations of the Apache infra:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-10143?focusedCommentId=14703175&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-14703175
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Best,
> > > > >> > Ismael
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Ismael Juma <
> ism...@juma.me.uk>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >> Hi Gwen,
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> I filed KAFKA-2425 as KAFKA-2364 is about improving the website
> > > > >> >> documentation. Aseem Bansal seemed interested in helping us
> with
> > > the
> > > > >> move
> > > > >> >> so I pinged him in the issue.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> Best,
> > > > >> >> Ismael
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 1:51 AM, Gwen Shapira <
> g...@confluent.io
> > >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >>> Ah, there is already a JIRA in the title. Never mind :)
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Gwen Shapira <
> > g...@confluent.io>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> > The vote opened 5 days ago. I believe we can conclude with 3
> > > > binding
> > > > >> >>> +1, 3
> > > > >> >>> > non-binding +1 and no -1.
> > > > >> >>> >
> > > > >> >>> > Ismael, are you opening and JIRA and migrating? Or are we
> > > looking
> > > > >> for a
> > > > >> >>> > volunteer?
> > > > >> >>> >
> > > > >> >>> > On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 5:46 PM, Ashish Singh <
> > > > asi...@cloudera.com>
> > > > >> >>> wrote:
> > > > >> >>> >
> > > > >> >>> >> +1 on same repo.
> > > > >> >>> >>
> > > > >> >>> >> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Edward Ribeiro <
> > > > >> >>> >> edward.ribe...@gmail.com>
> > > > >> >>> >> wrote:
> > > > >> >>> >>
> > > > >> >>> >> > +1. As soon as possible, please. :)
> > > > >> >>> >> >
> > > > >> >>> >> > On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Neha Narkhede <
> > > > n...@confluent.io>
> > > > >> >>> >> wrote:
> > > > >> >>> >> >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > +1 on the same repo for code and website. It helps to
> > keep
> > > > both
> > > > >> in
> > > > >> >>> >> sync.
> > > > >> >>> >> > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Grant Henke <
> > > > >> ghe...@cloudera.com>
> > > > >> >>> >> wrote:
> > > > >> >>> >> > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > +1 for the same repo. The closer docs can be to code
> > the
> > > > more
> > > > >> >>> >> accurate
> > > > >> >>> >> > > they
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > are likely to be. The same way we encourage unit
> tests
> > > for
> > > > a
> > > > >> new
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > feature/patch. Updating the docs can be the same.
> > > > >> >>> >> > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > If we follow Sqoop's process for example, how would
> > small
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > fixes/adjustments/additions to the live documentation
> > > occur
> > > > >> >>> without
> > > > >> >>> >> a
> > > > >> >>> >> > new
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > release?
> > > > >> >>> >> > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Guozhang Wang <
> > > > >> >>> wangg...@gmail.com>
> > > > >> >>> >> > > wrote:
> > > > >> >>> >> > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > I am +1 on same repo too. I think keeping one git
> > > > history of
> > > > >> >>> code
> > > > >> >>> >> /
> > > > >> >>> >> > doc
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > change may actually be beneficial for this approach
> > as
> > > > well.
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > Guozhang
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Gwen Shapira <
> > > > >> >>> g...@confluent.io>
> > > > >> >>> >> > > wrote:
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > I prefer same repo for one-commit / lower-barrier
> > > > >> benefits.
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > Sqoop has the following process, which decouples
> > > > >> >>> documentation
> > > > >> >>> >> > > changes
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > from
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > website changes:
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > 1. Code github repo contains a doc directory,
> with
> > > the
> > > > >> >>> >> > documentation
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > written and maintained in AsciiDoc. Only one
> > version
> > > of
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > documentation,
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > since it is source controlled with the code.
> > (unlike
> > > > >> >>> current SVN
> > > > >> >>> >> > > where
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > we
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > have directories per version)
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > 2. Build process compiles the AsciiDoc to HTML
> and
> > > PDF
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > 3. When releasing, we post the documentation of
> the
> > > new
> > > > >> >>> release
> > > > >> >>> >> to
> > > > >> >>> >> > > the
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > website
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > Gwen
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 12:20 AM, Ismael Juma <
> > > > >> >>> ism...@juma.me.uk
> > > > >> >>> >> >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > wrote:
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > For reference, here is the previous discussion
> on
> > > > moving
> > > > >> >>> the
> > > > >> >>> >> > > website
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > to
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > Git:
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > http://search-hadoop.com/m/uyzND11JliU1E8QU92
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > People were positive to the idea as Jay said. I
> > > would
> > > > >> >>> like to
> > > > >> >>> >> > see a
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > bit
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > of
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > a discussion around whether the website should
> be
> > > > part
> > > > >> of
> > > > >> >>> the
> > > > >> >>> >> > same
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > repo
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > as
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > the code or not. I'll get the ball rolling.
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > Pros for same repo:
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > * One commit can update the code and website,
> > which
> > > > >> means:
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > ** Lower barrier for updating docs along with
> > > > relevant
> > > > >> >>> code
> > > > >> >>> >> > changes
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > ** Easier to require that both are updated at
> the
> > > > same
> > > > >> >>> time
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > * More eyeballs on the website changes
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > * Automatically branched with the relevant code
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > Pros for separate repo:
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > * Potentially simpler for website-only changes
> > > > (smaller
> > > > >> >>> repo,
> > > > >> >>> >> > less
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > verification needed)
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > * Website changes don't "clutter" the code Git
> > > > history
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > * No risk of website change affecting the code
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > Your thoughts, please.
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > Best,
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > Ismael
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 6:15 PM, Aseem Bansal <
> > > > >> >>> >> > > asmbans...@gmail.com>
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > > Hi
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > > When discussing on KAFKA-2364 migrating docs
> > from
> > > > svn
> > > > >> >>> to git
> > > > >> >>> >> > came
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > up.
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > That
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > > would make contributing to docs much easier.
> I
> > > have
> > > > >> >>> >> contributed
> > > > >> >>> >> > > to
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > > groovy/grails via github so I think having
> > mirror
> > > > on
> > > > >> >>> github
> > > > >> >>> >> > could
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > be
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > > useful.
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > > Also I think unless there is some good reason
> > it
> > > > >> should
> > > > >> >>> be a
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > separate
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > repo.
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > > No need to mix docs and code.
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > > I can try that out.
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > --
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > > -- Guozhang
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > --
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > Grant Henke
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > Software Engineer | Cloudera
> > > > >> >>> >> > > > gr...@cloudera.com | twitter.com/gchenke |
> > > > >> >>> >> linkedin.com/in/granthenke
> > > > >> >>> >> > > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > >
> > > > >> >>> >> > > --
> > > > >> >>> >> > > Thanks,
> > > > >> >>> >> > > Neha
> > > > >> >>> >> > >
> > > > >> >>> >> >
> > > > >> >>> >>
> > > > >> >>> >>
> > > > >> >>> >>
> > > > >> >>> >> --
> > > > >> >>> >>
> > > > >> >>> >> Regards,
> > > > >> >>> >> Ashish
> > > > >> >>> >>
> > > > >> >>> >
> > > > >> >>> >
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > thanks
> > > > ashish
> > > >
> > > > Blog: http://www.ashishpaliwal.com/blog
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > -- Guozhang
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> -- Guozhang
>

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