Hi all,

I updated the KIP to include a command to print out the version
information of brokers (KAFKA-4457).  This will be a useful command for
administrators.

best,
Colin


On Wed, Nov 30, 2016, at 11:17, Colin McCabe wrote:
> Thanks, Ashish.  I think the idea of having the client make an
> ApiVersionRequest call when it starts up is a good one.  This idea is
> described in both KIP-97, and the KAFKA-3600 patches.  I also think we
> ought to maintain per-node version information.  It would be good to get
> that in so that we can use it as a building block for the stuff
> described in this KIP.  I'd be happy to review it.
> 
> Colin
> 
> 
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016, at 10:40, Ashish Singh wrote:
> > Hello Ismael,
> > 
> > It is good to know that you are willing to review KAFKA-3600 again. As
> > before, we at Cloudera are highly in support of client compatibility, and
> > KAFKA-3600 has always been a building block for that. Now that client
> > compatibility is at forefront again, thanks to Colin, I will be happy to
> > rebase KAFKA-3600 on trunk. However, any comments/ feedback on
> > KAFKA-3600's
> > approach on maintaining api version info for each connected broker is
> > highly welcome.
> > 
> > On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 5:47 AM, Ismael Juma <ism...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
> > 
> > > Thanks Colin, I think this is a good improvement.
> > >
> > > Ashish, some of the concerns with regards to KAFKA-3600 were related to 
> > > the
> > > cost versus benefit. Once one adds client compatibility, the benefit is
> > > much higher. I would be happy to review and merge KAFKA-3600 if we think 
> > > it
> > > serves as a good first step towards client compatibility (if the vote for
> > > this passes). Colin, maybe you can review the PR for KAFKA-3600 and see if
> > > you can build on that? Ashish, it may be worth merging trunk into your
> > > branch and fixing the conflicts.
> > >
> > > Ismael
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 7:39 PM, Ashish Singh <asi...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello Colin,
> > > >
> > > > In the KIP you mentioned that currently the client uses supported api
> > > > versions information to check if the server supports its desired
> > > versions.
> > > > Not sure, if that is true. I had put together a PR for KAFKA-3600, to do
> > > > that, but it never went in. Also, I could not find how you plan to
> > > perform
> > > > version check on client side. In KAFKA-3600, I am maintaining api 
> > > > version
> > > > for each live connection, and that made a few folks think it is too big
> > > of
> > > > a change.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Sorry, that link should be:
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-
> > > > > 97%3A+Improved+Kafka+Client+RPC+Compatibility+Policy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2016, at 11:04, Colin McCabe wrote:
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've been thinking about a KIP to improve the Kafka client's
> > > > > > compatibility policy.  If you're interested, please check out:
> > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-
> > > > > 97%3A+Improved+Kafka+Compatibility+Policy
> > > > > >
> > > > > > cheers,
> > > > > > Colin
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Ashish
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Ashish

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