Hi, with KIP-182 being implemented in 1.0 that will be released shortly, I wanted to follow up on this KIP. It seems, that we don't need it any longer, as KIP-182 resolves those issues.
If you agree, please update the KIP wiki page accordingly and move the KIP to "discarded" table. Thanks a lot! -Matthias On 6/24/17 9:53 AM, Michal Borowiecki wrote: > I think the discussion on Streams DSL refactoring will render this KIP > obsolete. > > I'll leave is as under discussion until something is agreed and then > move it to discarded. > > Cheers, > > Michał > > > On 03/06/17 10:02, Michal Borowiecki wrote: >> >> I agree maintaining backwards-compatibility here adds a lot of overhead. >> >> I haven't so far found a way to reconcile these elegantly. >> >> Whichever way we go it's better to take the pain sooner rather than >> later. Kafka 0.11.0.0 (through KAFKA-5045 >> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-5045>/KIP-114) increased >> the surface affected by the lack of fully type-parametrised suppliers >> noticeably. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Michał >> >> >> On 03/06/17 09:43, Damian Guy wrote: >>> Hmm, i guess this won't work due to adding the additional <K,V> to >>> the StateStoreSupplier params on reduce, count, aggregate etc. >>> >>> On Sat, 3 Jun 2017 at 09:06 Damian Guy <damian....@gmail.com >>> <mailto:damian....@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Michal, >>> >>> Thanks for the KIP - is there a way we can do this without having >>> to introduce the new Typed.. Interfaces, overloaded methods etc? >>> Is it possible that we just need to provide a couple of new >>> methods on PersistentKeyValueFactory for windowed and >>> sessionWindowed to return interfaces like you've introduced in >>> TypedStores? >>> I admit i haven't looked in much detail if that would work. >>> >>> My concern is that this is duplicating a bunch of code and >>> increasing the surface area for what is minimal benefit. It is >>> one of those cases where i'd love to not have to maintain >>> backward compatibility. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Damian >>> >>> On Fri, 2 Jun 2017 at 08:20 Michal Borowiecki >>> <michal.borowie...@openbet.com >>> <mailto:michal.borowie...@openbet.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Matthias, >>> >>> I appreciate people are busy now preparing the 0.11 release. >>> >>> One thing I would also appreciate input on is perhaps a >>> better name for the new TypedStores class, I just picked it >>> quickly but don't really like it. >>> >>> Perhaps StateStores would make for a better name? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Michal >>> >>> >>> On 02/06/17 07:18, Matthias J. Sax wrote: >>>> Thanks for the update Michal. >>>> >>>> I did skip over the PR. Looks good to me, as far as I can tell. >>>> Maybe >>>> Damian, Xavier, or Ismael can comment on this. Would be good to get >>>> confirmation that the change is backward compatible. >>>> >>>> >>>> -Matthias >>>> >>>> >>>> On 5/27/17 11:11 AM, Michal Borowiecki wrote: >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I've updated the KIP to reflect the proposed backwards-compatible >>>>> approach: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=69408481 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Given the vast area of APIs affected, I think the PR is easier to >>>>> read >>>>> than the code excerpts in the KIP itself: >>>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/2992/files >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Michał >>>>> >>>>> On 07/05/17 10:16, Eno Thereska wrote: >>>>>> I like this KIP in general and I agree it’s needed. Perhaps >>>>>> Damian can comment on the session store issue? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> Eno >>>>>>> On May 6, 2017, at 10:32 PM, Michal Borowiecki >>>>>>> <michal.borowie...@openbet.com> >>>>>>> <mailto:michal.borowie...@openbet.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Matthias, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Agreed. I tried your proposal and indeed it would work. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> However, I think to maintain full backward compatibility we >>>>>>> would also need to deprecate Stores.create() and leave it unchanged, >>>>>>> while providing a new method that returns the more strongly typed >>>>>>> Factories. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ( This is because PersistentWindowFactory and >>>>>>> PersistentSessionFactory cannot extend the existing >>>>>>> PersistentKeyValueFactory interface, since their build() methods will >>>>>>> be returning TypedStateStoreSupplier<WindowStore<K, V>> and >>>>>>> TypedStateStoreSupplier<SessionStore<K, V>> respectively, which are NOT >>>>>>> subclasses of TypedStateStoreSupplier<KeyValueStore<K, V>>. I do not >>>>>>> see another way around it. Admittedly, my type covariance skills are >>>>>>> rudimentary. Does anyone see a better way around this? ) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Since create() takes only the store name as argument, and I >>>>>>> don't see what we could overload it with, the new method would need to >>>>>>> have a different name. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Alternatively, since create(String) is the only method in >>>>>>> Stores, we could deprecate the entire class and provide a new one. That >>>>>>> would be my preference. Any ideas what to call it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All comments and suggestions appreciated. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Michał >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 04/05/17 21:48, Matthias J. Sax wrote: >>>>>>>> I had a quick look into this. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> With regard to backward compatibility, I think it would be >>>>>>>> required do >>>>>>>> introduce a new type `TypesStateStoreSupplier` (that extends >>>>>>>> `StateStoreSupplier`) and to overload all methods that take a >>>>>>>> `StateStoreSupplier` that accept the new type instead of the >>>>>>>> current one. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This would allow `.build` to return a >>>>>>>> `TypedStateStoreSupplier` and >>>>>>>> thus, would not break any code. As least if I did not miss >>>>>>>> anything with >>>>>>>> regard to some magic of type inference using generics (I am >>>>>>>> not an >>>>>>>> expert in this field). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Matthias >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 5/4/17 11:32 AM, Matthias J. Sax wrote: >>>>>>>>> Did not have time to have a look. 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