Hi Andreas,
Many of vendors have academic programs and so on. We may ask for full licenses 
for free, non-commercial use (documentation). If they'll decline we may back to 
open sourced tools. What is important for me - is multi platform. Some of you 
working on Macs, others on Linux and I on windows. ;-) Created diagram should 
be exportable to some text form (for example XML/XMI) and easy to put into 
version control to allow tracking it and modification in future. 

Lukasz

-----Original Message-----
From: Andreas Pieber [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 12:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Modeling tools

I think some UML diagrams of the core concepts would really help to understand 
karafs architecture, but I'm not so sure if we should use tools which are not 
available for free.

Although not too pretty e.g. bouml [1] should do the job. At least it is open 
source and available pre-packed on all (major) platforms/distributions.

WDYT?

kind regards,
andreas

[1] http://bouml.free.fr/

On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 12:44:54PM +0100, Łukasz Dywicki wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> I would ask about modeling tools that we may use to document existing 
> features/architecture of Karaf/SMX and other projects. At this moment 
> we don't even have any bigger architecture diagrams. May we ask some 
> tool vendor for few licenses? I know that there is Argo/Poseidon and 
> other modeling tools but they're very limited and don't even have 
> reverse engineering features or these are broken. What do you think?
> 
>  
> 
> I thought about two products:
> Magic Draw for UML
> 
> Visual Paradigm for UML
> 
>  
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Lukasz
> 

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