I'm not sure.  I think using aether has some benefits, but we need to
make sure that we can actually control what happens.
I guess the real downside is that we need to add maven metadata to the
system folder I think.

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 22:29, Achim Nierbeck <[email protected]> wrote:
> oh, I forgot about the minimal one :(
> the standard one is using it. So do you suggest that we revert to the
> standard pax-url-mvn bundle
> to get this snapshot issue resolved?
>
> regards, Achim
>
>
>> Ah, right, aether behaves differently and does not have this notion of
>> default repositories.  I think we may want to fix pax-aether in order
>> to support that.  I think it's just about having a  custom local repo
>> pointing to system and checking if the artifact can be resolved in
>> that one first.
>>
>> Note that the snapshot problem isn't really trivial.  If we use
>> pax-aether and the system dir as a local repository, we can't really
>> use it as a 'default' repository, else snapshots won't ever be
>> downloaded again.
>> At the same time, we want people to be able to update snapshots easily
>> (similar to dev:watch but using remote repositories).
>>
>> Where is aether installed ? The startup properties still list the mvn
>> handler and not aether:
>>
>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/karaf/trunk/assemblies/apache-karaf/src/main/filtered-resources/minimal/startup.properties
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 18:59, Achim Nierbeck<[email protected]>
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> maybe we need to ask toni if he changed something on pax-url-aether
>>> that changed this behavior
>>> since with 3.0 we use pax-url-aether instead of pax-url-mvn to resolve
>>> the dependencies.
>>>
>>> regards, achim
>>>
>>> 2011/4/20 Guillaume Nodet<[email protected]>:
>>>>
>>>> Yes, that would definitely be a problem.
>>>> However, i'm not sure why it happens.  The mvn url handler is
>>>> configured with system as a default repository which should override
>>>> any other repository, including the default m2 local repository (and
>>>> obviously any remote repository).   I did that a while ago to solve
>>>> this exact problem.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 18:50, David Jencks<[email protected]>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I discovered that features can pull in snapshots from the apache
>>>>> snapshot repo rather than the ones you carefully installed into system if
>>>>> someone does a deploy of a snapshot between when you assembled the server
>>>>> and started it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I found this behavior very disconcerting and I'm not sure it's what we
>>>>> want.
>>>>>
>>>>> One way to change this and also fix the "we're copying all the bundles
>>>>> into the framework" problem might be to examine each feature bundle and if
>>>>> its in system use a reference: url instead of the supplied mvn url.
>>>>>
>>>>> The situation in more detail:
>>>>>
>>>>> build a snapshot bundle X locally with local modifications.
>>>>> assemble a server X in the system repo and a feature using X in boot
>>>>> features.
>>>>>
>>>>> Someone else deploys a different X snapshot to say apache snapshot repo
>>>>>
>>>>> Start the server you assembled..... the feature starts and
>>>>> pax-url-aether fetches the X from apache snapshot repo instead of the one 
>>>>> in
>>>>> system.
>>>>>
>>>>> thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks
>>>>> david jencks
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
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